Rosy on A-Rod: "[MLB] plans to suspend A-Rod for at least this season and next"

[fatcowxlive]

[fatcowxlive]

Of course they do. They plan to try giving him a lifetime ban. This isn't news.

 

I'm just doing my part to keep the community in the swing of things, nothing bad about reporting news is there. News threads are better than half the threads here

[fatcowxlive]

Well I'm certainly cheering for A-rod. The longer he fights this the longer he gets paid. Milk everything you can from the Yankees. Hopefully he can delay it long enough to prevent a Yankees spending binge anytime soon.

 

Canseco said something smart, take the money from the Yankees and give it to charities to builds schools in the ghettos of NY

 

I don't trust in charities, but building schools and seeing progress is something I'm completely for it

 

It's not you I'm complaining about, it's the media lol. They keep coming out with new stories about Biogenesis that have no substance.

 

I know, I was just poking fun at you

 

A-Rod's name has been repeated so many time, but nothing new, lack of substance as you said.

[Boxcar]

This is ridiculous. MLB has absolutely no ground to stand on and they are gonna embarrass themselves. Nice work Bud!

 

Honestly, on what grounds can they give A-Rod a two season ban? He's never been suspended prior to this, he's admitted using PEDs in the past and there's no precedent for this kind of penalty. Seems like MLB is throwing s*** at the wall and hoping it sticks. At least they can fire the mediator again.

[fatcowxlive]

This is ridiculous. MLB has absolutely no ground to stand on and they are gonna embarrass themselves. Nice work Bud!

 

Honestly, on what grounds can they give A-Rod a two season ban? He's never been suspended prior to this, he's admitted using PEDs in the past and there's no precedent for this kind of penalty. Seems like MLB is throwing s*** at the wall and hoping it sticks. At least they can fire the mediator again.

 

I mean, as much as I hate A-Rod, he hasn't been tested positive and he's still admired to taking PEDs

 

On the other hand you have Braun, who lied after testing positive for PEDs yet he's getting a punishment that's a year less than A-Rod's? How does this make any sense?

[fatcowxlive]

A-Rod has never even tested positive. Although he has admitted to steroid use. Still a first offense is 50-games. He should get no more then 50-games.

 

Bingo, exactly what I wanted to say

[Nox]

Such a sham. Bud Selig thinks he's protecting his "legacy" but in reality there's a good chance he's setting fire to whatever is left of it.

[admin]

I haven't followed this at all, but wouldn't the Yankees welcome a very long ban, so they don't have to pay him?

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Selig is a joke. This Biogenesis witch-hunt is going to permanently damage the MLB's reputation and perhaps even put an end to baseball's relative labor peace by the time Selig's done with it. Already, he's hopped into bed with people they had been smearing as crooks before to get information out of them, thrown due process out the window by suspending without a positive drug test, cut deals with players that they were smearing as cheats, and now will be getting the Yankees out of A-Rod's albatross of a contract.

 

This thing could reignite conflicts not only between the players' union and the owners but also between small-market franchises and large-market franchises if Selig doesn't end this nonsense. I don't care that A-Rod showed up on some crook's handwritten list - until there's a positive test, the MLB should NOT suspend him and should NOT void his contract.

 

The Yankees look like absolute crooks here too, keeping him off the field on purpose to get out of his contract and collect insurance money on top of that. What a joke.

[baseballsss]

I haven't followed this at all, but wouldn't the Yankees welcome a very long ban, so they don't have to pay him?

 

the way i see it is if you don't want the yankees to go on a spending spree you would prob want arod to get suspended asap. The yankees need to get under the luxury tax which looks like they will either way. Once there under for the next year, the year after they can spend whatever they want and if arod drags the suspension out and get suspended later then their gunna have that extra money to go blow on free agents.

 

But to be honest not 100% sure how the luxury tax thing works i just know if there not under next year they gotta pay like 45 Mil.

[baseballsss]

I haven't followed this at all, but wouldn't the Yankees welcome a very long ban, so they don't have to pay him?

 

Sorry guess that didn't answer your question. Yes they would thats why everyones saying MLB and yankees are conspiring together.

[DH12]

another great throw by rasmus

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

Sorry guess that didn't answer your question. Yes they would thats why everyones saying MLB and yankees are conspiring together.

 

Conspiring to ban a decade long drug cheat who has been habitually lying about it through two long term contracts ? I don't think so. This is ARod's responsibility alone, he made his bed and he deserves a lifetime ban if the evidance exists. In fact, when he was signing his last extension, he likely was using at that time as well.

 

Its not hard to see that 5 or 6 posters of questionable ethics are siding with ARod's camp without even knowing the evidance.

[baseballsss]

Conspiring to ban a decade long drug cheat who has been habitually lying about it through two long term contracts ? I don't think so. This is ARod's responsibility alone, he made his bed and he deserves a lifetime ban if the evidance exists. In fact, when he was signing his last extension, he likely was using at that time as well.

 

Its not hard to see that 5 or 6 posters of questionable ethics are siding with ARod's camp without even knowing the evidance.

 

Not that i care at all what happens but the guy has never tested positive.

[o2cui2i]

I mean, as much as I hate A-Rod, he hasn't been tested positive and he's still admired to taking PEDs

 

On the other hand you have Braun, who lied after testing positive for PEDs yet he's getting a punishment that's a year less than A-Rod's? How does this make any sense?

 

 

the douche bag rule should be applied in both cases. both have cried fake tears in front of the media and both should be hung from the flag pole. they should be banned for life for flaunting it and then getting caught which would just be the league penalizing them for being retarded s*** bags.

 

they should both get the same ban. Selig sucking a little more Steinbrenner dick before he retires.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Conspiring to ban a decade long drug cheat who has been habitually lying about it through two long term contracts ?

 

No, conspiring to get the Yankees out of a very large contract that is draining their resources without a single positive drug test to back it up.

 

If A-Rod was on any team other than the Yankees or Red Sox with his current contract, any punishment that involved voiding the contract wouldn't even be considered.

[kgm1]

Arod tried to make a deal with the Yankees too but they wouldn't talk to him. I think they hope he gets the suspention for a year and a half then by that time is too old and hurt all the time and insurance picks up the tab .

 

The union and thus most of the players want a clean game and will not support him . I think they have data that he not only tried to cover up the issue and buy off they paper trail but also has been linked for a long time using . He also is linked to Galea the canadian HGH doctor and did test positive in their first sample test . I think they will win this and he will be suspended for at least a whole season

[o2cui2i]

No, conspiring to get the Yankees out of a very large contract that is draining their resources without a single positive drug test to back it up.

 

there is a peculiar clause in the CBA that says they can ban players if there is sufficient evidence even without a positive test. it's odd that the players union let a rule like that stand, but pressure is there to clean things up. whether this witch hunt is enough "evidence" is up to the union and they dont seem to be ready to take any heat for the first time. the evidence mus be pretty good if Braun didn't even appeal.

 

Yankees want to get the Arod contract off the books for next year so they can be under the luxury tax and then be a first time offender in 2015. that would mean 17-5% instead of 50% in 2016. that saves them a shitload of money. how they can be considered a "first time offender" is just as odd as the "sufficient evidence" clause.

 

it should make for entertaining reality tv so get some popcorn and chill some beer.

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

Not that i care at all what happens but the guy has never tested positive.

 

I thought he tested positive back when the results didn't mean a suspension. He then admitted to use. So the possibility he

used PED's when he was in Texas is 100%.

[baseballsss]

I thought he tested positive back when the results didn't mean a suspension. He then admitted to use. So the possibility he

used PED's when he was in Texas is 100%.

 

right you are forgot about that. Either way that test doesn't mean a thing and basically didn't happen. Arods name should of never been released.

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

right you are forgot about that. Either way that test doesn't mean a thing and basically didn't happen. Arods name should of never been released.

 

Getting off on a technicality doesn't excuse you if you are dumb enough to re-offend later. Its the blatant, repeated disregard of the rules that puts these players in a bad spot ( plus the very public lying about it ). I think Braun got off too lightly. The biggest losers in the Braun situation are Brewers fans that are stuck with this guy being the face of their team for many years at a huge cost.

[StevieRay]

Disclaimer: if my opinion is flawed due to not having read through the complete information of AROD's link to Biogenesis please enlighten me.

 

So I do see some hypocrisy in this issue. Why is A Rod given a longer ban than other players. Did they prove that he used more PED than others suspended (which I don't think is reasonable ground for longer suspension), or did he obstruct the investigation that no other did (IIRC, Ryan Braun was suspended more than 50 becuz he was found to have obstructed/lied during the investigation)? So I do think maybe yanks are pulling the strings behind the scene, which is sad. AROD definitely needs to take responsibility for what he did, but the suspension shouldn't be carried out with rather illegitimate monetary purpose if so..

[KSaw]

Such a sham. Bud Selig thinks he's protecting his "legacy" but in reality there's a good chance he's setting fire to whatever is left of it.

 

There's some very guarded secrets being protected when it comes to A-Rod and this scandal. Sure, there is speculation that Rodriguez tried to pay career criminals to break into the lab and steal documents. That all sounds very b-movie or Watergate to me but who knows. If his role includes criminal activities, not sure if the FBI doesn't get involved, if they aren't already. Suspension might be the least of his problems, or perhaps it is the key to some back room dealing to keep him out of handcuffs. This all seems to be much, much bigger than all but a small handful of people know about.

 

I'm guessing that there's enough dirty laundry to suspend him for life. The deal he's being offered will keep him HoF eligible.

[G-Snarls]

Still negotiating I guess:

 

[sdyment]

I don't think it was mentioned in this thread, but a lot of the suspension will be for 1) recruiting other players to Biogenesis and 2) trying to buy and destroy incriminating documents from Biogenesis. That is what I have read... please don't ask for a source or link

[Boxcar]

Conspiring to ban a decade long drug cheat who has been habitually lying about it through two long term contracts ? I don't think so. This is ARod's responsibility alone, he made his bed and he deserves a lifetime ban if the evidance exists. In fact, when he was signing his last extension, he likely was using at that time as well.

 

Its not hard to see that 5 or 6 posters of questionable ethics are siding with ARod's camp without even knowing the evidance.

 

Did you know there are these things called labour agreements, and you can't just make up penalties to suit your whim? True story, try educating yourself once in awhile. You can tell us all where it says that A-Rod can receive a lifetime ban and maybe you won't look like such an idiot.

[Boxcar]

Getting off on a technicality doesn't excuse you if you are dumb enough to re-offend later. Its the blatant, repeated disregard of the rules that puts these players in a bad spot ( plus the very public lying about it ). I think Braun got off too lightly. The biggest losers in the Braun situation are Brewers fans that are stuck with this guy being the face of their team for many years at a huge cost.

 

OMG they have a superstar locked up to a pretty reasonable contract?! That is terrible!

 

Can't stand these people that take such a moral stance.

[Dylan]

So it's official?

 

Report: A-Rod to be suspended 214 games

[P2F]

Heyman: "Three other players whose names haven't become public are believed on the suspension list as well."

 

Who are they!? I'm very curious. Hopefully Cano lol.

 

Interesting. I wonder if any of them are star players.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Heyman: "Three other players whose names haven't become public are believed on the suspension list as well."

 

Who are they!? I'm very curious. Hopefully Cano lol.

 

Cano, Ortiz, and Miguel Cabrera would be nice.