jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Al-Farouq to the Blazers for 4 years, 30 million
Horses Fart Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Al-Farouq to the Blazers for 4 years, 30 million Wow 7.5 a year. Is he that good?
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) I dont think so but you have to factor in the cap rising the last 2 years of the deal so it's probably fair. Middleton resigns with the Bucks as well, 5/70. Millsap offered a max from Hawks and Magic, which means Carrol is gone if he resigns Edited July 1, 2015 by jays_fever
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Why isn't Masai going after Millsap too? If he's willing to offer the max to Aldridge, why not Millsap? He might not have the hype but he's probably just as good.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 DeMarre Carroll #WeThe North I will be playing for Toronto Raptors next year!!!! I'm Blessed for this Opportunity!… Welcome to Toronto DeMarre!!
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 OMG ANG WASN'T f***ING WITH US that deal is going to look incredible next year wow
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Now if they're still going to go after LMA, Derozan's surely going to be traded, right?
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Now if they're still going to go after LMA, Derozan's surely going to be traded, right? Spurs are going to get LMA. They're closing in. Lakers didn't impress him (h/t Woj) and they just traded Splitter. Only thing standing in their way is Patty Mills' contract.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 MY God I just came so hard.. Can we get rid of Ross now
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Spurs are going to get LMA. They're closing in. Lakers didn't impress him (h/t Woj) and they just traded Splitter. Only thing standing in their way is Patty Mills' contract. Stop pouring cold water over my dream of Derozan getting traded.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Stop pouring cold water over my dream of Derozan getting traded. What I really meant was that even though we're not going to get LMA, we're going to deal Demar to LA for Clarkson and sign Millsap.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 f*** off Ang DeMarre Carroll - Toronto 4Ys/60M Great deal fo both parts
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 LMA - Spurs Monroe - Lakers Millsap - Hawks/Magic
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 It's actually pretty amusing how stupid casual NBA fans are..maybe even worse than baseball. People actually think Carroll is a role player.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Well the Leafs suck again so Raptors are once again my 1B sports team
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 How good are Win Shares and VORP for basketball? Relate to baseball WAR plz. Carroll's seem good. Top 5 on his team and would have been top 2/3 in Toronto.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 How good are Win Shares and VORP for basketball? Relate to baseball WAR plz. Carroll's seem good. Top 5 on his team and would have been top 2/3 in Toronto. Win Shares are dumn. They're relative to your team Wins Produced, Real Plus-Minus and VORP are probably the best stats.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Win shares has as much to do with the team than the individual player. There's no reliable WAR stat for basketball I don't think since it's more so a team sport than baseball.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 It's actually pretty amusing how stupid casual NBA fans are..maybe even worse than baseball. People actually think Carroll is a role player. He is a role player. I'd much rather have a very good role player than a fake star like Derozan though.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 jays_fever means role player like off the bench. Role player is a loose term.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 I like this deal but only if masai has something more lined up. A core of Lowry/DD/Carroll/JV is still not going to move the needle much.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 I like this deal but only if masai has something more lined up. A core of Lowry/DD/Carroll/JV is still not going to move the needle much. Well our starting PF right now is 2Pat. I can't imagine Masai finally taking a chance and making a big signing without anything else lined up, he seems like a plan thinker.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Well our starting PF right now is 2Pat. I can't imagine Masai finally taking a chance and making a big signing without anything else lined up, he seems like a plan thinker. Carroll seems to me like someone you sign when you're one piece away from championship contention. I just hope this move is not signalling that they're moving forward with Lowry/DD.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Carroll seems to me like someone you sign when you're one piece away from championship contention. I just hope this move is not signalling that they're moving forward with Lowry/DD. I don't think this really has anything to do with the position of the team. Just seems like a perfect fit for this team. We needed shooting and defense, he gives us both. Nothing wrong with Lowry I don't think. Demar is the biggest problem.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Yea by role player most people assume a bench guy or someone who supports the top players. You dont always need your top players to be high volume scorers. I don't understand the Matthews signing as well but whatevrr. Were going to be improved next year
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 If we keep JJ this offseason it'll at least be a break-even offseason, I think.
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