SpeedyGose Verified Member Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 I need to give props to Casey. He has recently upped the playing time for Jonas, 30+ mins in 5 of the last 6. Nice to see that and Jonas has responded with solid performances (except the 2nd cleveland game where he was awful)
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 Watching the game a 2nd time JJ played pretty bad defense. He takes a lot of chances which leads to some easy buckets. Landry was much better in the limited time. I wouldn't be opposed to see him get some minutes off the bench. If anything it can decrease some guys minutes who are having to play a lot with DD out.
immature Verified Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 I need to give props to Casey. He has recently upped the playing time for Jonas, 30+ mins in 5 of the last 6. Nice to see that and Jonas has responded with solid performances (except the 2nd cleveland game where he was awful) 1st Q: 23% JV usage in 10 minutes (20% effective usage). 33 total points scored. 2nd Q: 33% JV usage in 7 minutes (19% effective usage). 30 total points scored. 3rd Q: 12% JV usage in 11 minutes (12% effective usage). 25 total points scored. 4th Q: 0% (!!!) JV usage in 7 minutes. 13 total points scored He is playing, but we still have to use him!
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 1st Q: 23% JV usage in 10 minutes (20% effective usage). 33 total points scored. 2nd Q: 33% JV usage in 7 minutes (19% effective usage). 30 total points scored. 3rd Q: 12% JV usage in 11 minutes (12% effective usage). 25 total points scored. 4th Q: 0% (!!!) JV usage in 7 minutes. 13 total points scored He is playing, but we still have to use him! Its not always on the coach...Im sure Casey isn't telling guys not to pass the ball to him. Guys have to pass to him and he has to get open lets not forget. I think the other players don't trust him in the 4th Q as much as Casey does.
immature Verified Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 @ByChrisBlack Since DeRozan injury, Crunch Time FGA (last 5 mins +/- 5 pts) Lowry, Ross, Vasquez, Williams: 8-28 (29%) Patterson, JV, Amir: 4-7 (57%) I agree. It seems they also don't trust PP and Amir.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 @ByChrisBlack Since DeRozan injury, Crunch Time FGA (last 5 mins +/- 5 pts) Lowry, Ross, Vasquez, Williams: 8-28 (29%) Patterson, JV, Amir: 4-7 (57%) I agree. It seems they also don't trust PP and Amir. Well Amir won't ever have a play run from him, especially this year he seems like all his points are on O-rebounds. I've really like Ppats game. Doesn't force anything and is great at catching and shooting.
immature Verified Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 PP is almost too passive at times. Now that he has the ability to shoot the 3 at decent rate he has become a very versatile offensive player. And Wiggins had 23 and 10 tonight beating Portland. ROY right now.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 PP is almost too passive at times. Now that he has the ability to shoot the 3 at decent rate he has become a very versatile offensive player. And Wiggins had 23 and 10 tonight beating Portland. ROY right now. I don't pretend to know anything out of the basics of the NBA, but what the f*** does Wiggins have any correlation to the Raptors? Unless, I read that wrong, who cares?
immature Verified Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 He is Canadian, and could conceivably become the face of the NBA. It's worth keeping an eye on his development. Canada could win a medal in 2016 and gold in 2020 depending on how he evolves.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 He is Canadian, and could conceivably become the face of the NBA. It's worth keeping an eye on his development. Canada could win a medal in 2016 and gold in 2020 depending on how he evolves. Watched some of the game. He's still too passive and he's playing with a bunch of ball hogs. The natural ability is off the charts but does he have the fire to be elite? I think having Rubio back will help him significantly. They should be able to do pretty well in the fast break.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 I don't pretend to know anything out of the basics of the NBA, but what the f*** does Wiggins have any correlation to the Raptors? Unless, I read that wrong, who cares? This is the NBA thread not just the raptors thread.
immature Verified Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Watched some of the game. He's still too passive and he's playing with a bunch of ball hogs. The natural ability is off the charts but does he have the fire to be elite? I think having Rubio back will help him significantly. They should be able to do pretty well in the fast break. I haven't watched any Minnesota games recently and only watched one entire game early on and a couple quarters when Rubio was starting. From what i saw and his highlights it seems he has a ways to go when it comes to playing "within the offence". Most of his points are from isolations and due to his freak athleticism and surprisingly decent jump shot, he can usually find a way to take a high percentage shot on his own. Over time I could see him developing some chemistry with Rubio, though I'm not sure how much chemistry he will find this year. I also think a lot of his development will come from inside his own head. My armchair psychological evaluation of the kid is that he seems to be fairly intelligent and humble but also a bit overwhelmed and scared at times which leads to the passiveness. If he can overcome his fear and doubt I think you will then begin to see the fire.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 I haven't watched any Minnesota games recently and only watched one entire game early on and a couple quarters when Rubio was starting. From what i saw and his highlights it seems he has a ways to go when it comes to playing "within the offence". Most of his points are from isolations and due to his freak athleticism and surprisingly decent jump shot, he can usually find a way to take a high percentage shot on his own. Over time I could see him developing some chemistry with Rubio, though I'm not sure how much chemistry he will find this year. I also think a lot of his development will come from inside his own head. My armchair psychological evaluation of the kid is that he seems to be fairly intelligent and humble but also a bit overwhelmed and scared at times which leads to the passiveness. If he can overcome his fear and doubt I think you will then begin to see the fire. Agreed with the below comment. Might just be a case of not being ready for the limelight yet. He seems fairly introverted. I love Lavine's game and Rubio is a great playmaker so he's definitely in a decent environment in terms of development.
Art Vandelay Verified Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 I don't pretend to know anything out of the basics of the NBA, but what the f*** does Wiggins have any correlation to the Raptors? Unless, I read that wrong, who cares? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the NBA thread, not the Raptors thread.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Watched some of the game. He's still too passive and he's playing with a bunch of ball hogs. The natural ability is off the charts but does he have the fire to be elite? I think having Rubio back will help him significantly. They should be able to do pretty well in the fast break. Watched most of that game as well. Man the Twolves are bad. They made such terrible mistakes in the worst possible situations. If they weren't throwing the ball away they were taking long 2s etc... I think Wiggins really has to develop his handles. He's got a great first step and a decent jumpshot but when he has the ball it almost seems like he is a robot as he is predetermined on what he is going to do. He has so much potential but I see him being an allstar more than being an elite player. If Embid can stay healthy he will be the best player from that draft class.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Also some good news
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 He is Canadian, and could conceivably become the face of the NBA. It's worth keeping an eye on his development. Canada could win a medal in 2016 and gold in 2020 depending on how he evolves. This is the NBA thread not just the raptors thread. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the NBA thread, not the Raptors thread. This is true. Imdumn.
labadee Verified Member Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 This is true. Imdumn. screw that, raps are all that matter
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Watched most of that game as well. Man the Twolves are bad. They made such terrible mistakes in the worst possible situations. If they weren't throwing the ball away they were taking long 2s etc... I think Wiggins really has to develop his handles. He's got a great first step and a decent jumpshot but when he has the ball it almost seems like he is a robot as he is predetermined on what he is going to do. He has so much potential but I see him being an allstar more than being an elite player. If Embid can stay healthy he will be the best player from that draft class. Insane that this draft class was being compared to the LBJ/Wade/Bosh/Melo class. It's not even close. Thank GOD we didn't tank.
SpeedyGose Verified Member Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Insane that this draft class was being compared to the LBJ/Wade/Bosh/Melo class. It's not even close. Thank GOD we didn't tank. Ehhh, I still think it's going to be a really great class with at least a handful of all-star level players (exum, wiggins, parker, embiid at least). Obviously, I would rather have Kyle if given the choice
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Ehhh, I still think it's going to be a really great class with at least a handful of all-star level players (exum, wiggins, parker, embiid at least). Obviously, I would rather have Kyle if given the choice My sleeper pick to be a star in this draft is Lavine. I love his game.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 All is not well in Chicago... huge rift between Thibs and his team is forming: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1360305&sid=1c6189564f26e0b7527d26553532ea81
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Insane that this draft class was being compared to the LBJ/Wade/Bosh/Melo class. It's not even close. Thank GOD we didn't tank. Still really early and in 5 years we will look back and there will probably be some really good players. Embidif he can get healthy should be an elite player. He has a decent shot of being a top 10 player in a few years, I think he is that good.
labadee Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Raps two possesions, two turnovers. Get it together!
labadee Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 raps feasting on the glass for a change.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 raps feasting on the glass for a change. Indiana is a pretty bad team lol.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 So T Ross turning it over again, so much for these decent handles everyone here keeps talking about.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Heat check Lou Williams.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Lou Williams has such unbelievable ease at getting a shot off.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 I hate that T Ross stepback long 2. Ever since Derozan got hurt he seems to use it more. If you are going to use that move at least step back another 2 feet for a 3.
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