Rangers media talking Bautista / Profar trade..

[gruber92]

I didn't get his name but he was entertaining the thought of obtaining Bautista for Profar on the Fan. He said the Rangers need another middle of the order bat and would love to get Bautista. He said the Rangers would and most likely and will entertain talks involving Profar. He also mentioned Eithier and Stanton as potential targets. Interesting..

[Sparky12]

Yes please!

[G-Snarls]

Rangers definitely need to do something. They're one piece away from being a true World Series favourite, and have too many good middle infielders.

 

Yep. I'm shocked they didn't trade one of Andrus, Kinsler and Profar this off season

 

They need another big bat and they could use an upgrade to the rotation

 

Profar gives them their biggest return so...

[LGBJ29]

Yep. I'm shocked they didn't trade one of Andrus, Kinsler and Profar this off season

 

They need another big bat and they could use an upgrade to the rotation

 

Profar gives them their biggest return so...

 

the offseason could be too late for them. Look trade deadline

[dineke]

AA doesn't have the balls to trade bautista.

[DuckDuckGose]

Yep. I'm shocked they didn't trade one of Andrus, Kinsler and Profar this off season

 

They need another big bat and they could use an upgrade to the rotation

 

Profar gives them their biggest return so...

 

The Texas media is in love with Kinsler as well. They'd never suggest for him to be the one shipped out.

[ace3113]

I didn't get his name but he was entertaining the thought of obtaining Bautista for Profar on the Fan. He said the Rangers need another middle of the order bat and would love to get Bautista. He said the Rangers would and most likely and will entertain talks involving Profar. He also mentioned Eithier and Stanton as potential targets. Interesting..

 

Do it. I like Bautista but this frees up 14mm and gives us a big bat to plug in at second base for the next 6 years, and at short whenever Reyes is injured. Sign Choo in the off season to play right field.

 

Reyes

Profar

Choo

Encarnacion

Cabrera

Lind

Lawrie

Rasmus

Arencibia

[DuckDuckGose]

AA doesn't have the balls to trade bautista.

 

AA can't really sell now, he's dug himself a hole. I'd definitely entertain a Bautista for Profar swap but that move gets AA fired.

[G-Snarls]

the offseason could be too late for them. Look trade deadline

 

I meant this past off season

 

Maybe they were worried about Profar's hit tool before he had more MLB experience. But it seems fine.

[havok24]

AA can't really sell now, he's dug himself a hole. I'd definitely entertain a Bautista for Profar swap but that move gets AA fired.

 

Double win.

[Angrioter]

Double win.

 

Profar + Robbie Ross for Bautista (AA perfect deal Scheppers RP + Ross RP + Tepesch for Bautista)

[DuckDuckGose]

Double win.

 

Hahaha I should've expected a shot at AA with that one!

 

TBH if AA is moving Bautista he needs to get more than Profar back. Either the Rangers need to take on future salary or give up some more value. The Jays are multiple pieces away at this point, simply swapping our best player for Profar wont turn this ship around.

[sdyment]

AA can't really sell now, he's dug himself a hole. I'd definitely entertain a Bautista for Profar swap but that move gets AA fired.

Not if you're influenced by Andrew Freidman's business model... gotta keep turning over the talent. The true genius does it by getting max value for your players... James Shields-type deals where the return is a franchise player.

 

Not saying I'd do the deal, but I definitely wouldn't be opposed to seeing what's there. Maybe throw Olt into the package and we'll add something...yada, yada, yada

[Daniel Labude]

Trade Bautista asap and get tbe best return possible. He doesnt have many years left and a guy like Profar would definitely improve this team.

[G-Snarls]

Trade Bautista asap and get tbe best return possible. He doesnt have many years left and a guy like Profar would definitely improve this team.

 

And go with an OF of Cabrera, Rasmus and Gose?

 

I'm not sure I love that outfield...

[CHRIS]

What a tempting deal. Bautista probably has a few solid seasons left, but for an organization that is incapable of drafting/developing their own players to get a major league ready guy in Profar, and free up money to boot, well, it's interesting.

 

Not that AA would ever have the cojones to do this.

[DuckDuckGose]

Not if you're influenced by Andrew Freidman's business model... gotta keep turning over the talent. The true genius does it by getting max value for your players... James Shields-type deals where the return is a franchise player.

 

Not saying I'd do the deal, but I definitely wouldn't be opposed to seeing what's there. Maybe throw Olt into the package and we'll add something...yada, yada, yada

 

I expect everyone to act in the best interest of keeping their job. It's not that AA shouldn't look to retool, perhaps using some of his stars as trade chips. It's that Rogers trusted AA to go out and build a contender. If he sells off the guys he bet on it will be as if he doesn't believe in himself anymore and a hit to Rogers' confidence in him. If he goes that route the team would have to perform well next year in order for AA to avoid the axe.

 

Now if AA were to get Profar+ for Bautista, the question becomes what could he get for a healthy Reyes as Profar's natural position is SS. I know the Cards are looking to get MIF help and could be interested in an AS SS. Perhaps AA could land Taveras or Miller + for him. I don't know about you guys but, I'd be all for moving Bautista and Reyes for Profar, Taveras ++ and re-investing that freed-up payroll space on pitching and another bat (a better catcher preferred).

[Abomination]

IF Olt's drop in numbers (and range) this year are due to an injury he's playing through (which is likely), and IF we think he can stick at 3rd, then something like Rasmus for Olt (as the principals) could be pretty intriguing. Would free up Gose for the OF, and Lawrie could move to 2nd when Olt came up.

[jays_fever]

If AA manages to get profar, all faith will be restored

[ace3113]

I know it would never happen but if we blew it up: Bautista and Johnson for Jurickson Profar (SS) and Rougned Odor (2B), then Jose Reyes to St. Louis for Oscar Tavares. We'd lop around 35mm-40mm off the payroll too.

[connorp]

I would trade Bautista for him straight up for sure. No brainer.

 

It is a brainer. In 2011, if we swapped JB for Hosmer, Moose, and Montgomery.. that would have looked better on paper than this deal would.

[Angrioter]

If AA manages to get profar, all faith will be restored

 

JJ + Bautista for Olt + Profar + Ross + Alfaro + Martin Perez

[connorp]

If they took MB and we had to maybe chip something else in, I would be down with that. Really hard to lose the deal that way.

[Sammy225]

I would do that in a heart beat. Free up cash, and have Profar and Reyes up the middle. However like most people said AA would have to have Balls to do it. Most on here would love it but the "casual" fans would just be raging and as much as I hate to admit it Toronto has a lot of them Casuals kicking around.

[connorp]

I would do that in a heart beat. Free up cash, and have Profar and Reyes up the middle. However like most people said AA would have to have Balls to do it. Most on here would love it but the "casual" fans would just be raging and as much as I hate to admit it Toronto has a lot of them Casuals kicking around.

 

Just because someone isn't prospect crazy doesn't mean they are automatically uninformed casuals. Prospects are high risk no matter how awesome their raw tools look.

 

I'm open to moving JB.. but I would like to see Dickey and JJ moved.. both have the chance to get a Top 25 type guy if they can pitch well until the deadline. Maybe move Casey if he get a nice return. Start forming a plan for the team, then move your most valuable piece. Profar does nothing right not to change the direction of the franchise in the next few years.

[G-Snarls]

We think Adam Dunn and Vernon Wells have come back to hurt us?

 

Imagine how much Jose Bautista will beast against us if he gets traded to the Rangers...

[G-Snarls]

Not if you're influenced by Andrew Freidman's business model... gotta keep turning over the talent. The true genius does it by getting max value for your players... James Shields-type deals where the return is a franchise player.

 

Is Pofar going to be as good as Myers???

 

Edit: I recognize this is an unanswerable question...

[HERPDERP]

Profar's value comes from being a shortstop. Shortstop value > 2nd base.

 

Unless we're shipping Reyes somewhere else, I don't see how this benefits us to be worthwhile.

[G-Snarls]

Plus, the Rays do it with a year to a year and a half remaining on contracts and still get great returns.

 

We own Bautista for 3 more years after this at reasonable $. That's worth more.

[DuckDuckGose]

Just because someone isn't prospect crazy doesn't mean they are automatically uninformed casuals. Prospects are high risk no matter how awesome their raw tools look.

 

I'm open to moving JB.. but I would like to see Dickey and JJ moved.. both have the chance to get a Top 25 type guy if they can pitch well until the deadline. Maybe move Casey if he get a nice return. Start forming a plan for the team, then move your most valuable piece. Profar does nothing right not to change the direction of the franchise in the next few years.

 

Keep Dickey. You aren't getting a Syndergaard or d'Arnaud back and you're going to have to give up assets (payroll or player(s)) to fill those innings anyways. AA needs to add to the core of Jose + Reyes + Morrow + Dickey + Lawrie. If he moves one of the Joses he needs to bring back MLB ready stars.