The Umpires are getting worse...

[96-66 Jays]

Anyone else see this bs? Calling a homerun a double even after checking the video replay... You can clearly see it hit the railing about the yellow line.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130508&content_id=47017588&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb#disqus_thread

[LGBJ29]

Yeah that was pretty bad. Not sure how they didnt see that while reviewing it

[GeorgiaPeach]

Anyone else see this bs? Calling a homerun a double even after checking the video replay... You can clearly see it hit the railing about the yellow line.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130508&content_id=47017588&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb#disqus_thread

 

You ever notice its the same umps that blow the most calls? Its not all umps that are bad.

[KSaw]

When Angel Hernandez is the crew chief there's bound to be problems.

[96-66 Jays]

No thats fair. Not all umps are bad. Just sucks seeing perfect games blown, game tying homeruns missed, constant strikes called when balls or vice versa. It really gets old. They need younger umps who can actually see lol

[fatcowxlive]

Anyone else see this bs? Calling a homerun a double even after checking the video replay... You can clearly see it hit the railing about the yellow line.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130508&content_id=47017588&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb#disqus_thread

 

Why does Angel Hendandez still have his job?

[GeorgiaPeach]

When Angel Hernandez is the crew chief there's bound to be problems.

 

Kirk, who makes the final call on a HR review? Is it a collaboration of umps, the HP ump, the crew chief?

[GeorgiaPeach]

Why does Angel Hendandez still have his job?

 

Union is the first answer. And the second is, that if every employer fired people for making mistakes no one would be employed.

[fatcowxlive]

Kirk, who makes the final call on a HR review? Is it a collaboration of umps, the HP ump, the crew chief?

 

I'm no Kirk, but MLB Network implied that the crew chief makes the final call. The big controversy was Angel Hernandez is the same person who had a heated argument with Melvin and tossed him for a bad call. Hernandez is the crew chief and some people think that he made that final decision just to piss Melvin off

[KSaw]

Kirk, who makes the final call on a HR review? Is it a collaboration of umps, the HP ump, the crew chief?

 

Crew chief. They all review and discuss but in the end...

[Hemingways007]

Still though, this is inexcusable. Mistakes are understandable, but the integrity of the game is worsened by such horrible calls. This umpire should be suspended, this is ridiculous.

[fatcowxlive]

Union is the first answer. And the second is, that if every employer fired people for making mistakes no one would be employed.

 

Hernandez is making too much mistakes though. There has to be a limit

[KSaw]

I don't know who thinks Angel blew it on purpose to stick it to Melvin. That wouldn't happen. The embarrassment over blowing a call like that and the fine and yes, there will be an undisclosed fine from Charlie Reilford. And then the shadow over his integrity on the field. He didnt blow it on purpose. He's just bad.

[kcjaysfan]

I don't know who thinks Angel blew it on purpose to stick it to Melvin. That wouldn't happen. The embarrassment over blowing a call like that and the fine and yes, there will be an undisclosed fine from Charlie Reilford. And then the shadow over his integrity on the field. He didnt blow it on purpose. He's just bad.

 

We obviously don't know what exactly happened when they were reviewing it, but what are your thoughts on assigning blame in these two possible scenarios? 1) All three umpires missed the ball hitting the railing in the replay. Should all three umpires be at fault, or just the crew chief? 2) One or two of the other umpires saw it correctly in the replay, then Hernandez overruled them. Same question.

[LGBJ29]

We obviously don't know what exactly happened when they were reviewing it, but what are your thoughts on assigning blame in these two possible scenarios? 1) All three umpires missed the ball hitting the railing in the replay. Should all three umpires be at fault, or just the crew chief? 2) One or two of the other umpires saw it correctly in the replay, then Hernandez overruled them. Same question.

 

Edit: nevermind i read the question wrong

[Nox]

You can designate authority but not responsibility. Hernandez should rightly take the heat here.

 

Awful, awful call.

[SumoNinja]

I think that as a whole, MLB's umpiring could be improved with the firing of about 10 guys. It seems like the same guys blowing calls over and over. On the flip side, there is probably 10 or so exceptionally good umpires in MLB. The rest are just meh.

 

I don't know how much it would cost if the league had to buy these guys out, but it would be money well spent. Earlier this season the Jays had a game with a 27 year old plate umpire. I don't remember his name, but he was very good for the 7 or so innings I watched, so the talent is out there to improve the crews.

[HERPDERP]

I think that as a whole, MLB's umpiring could be improved with the firing of about 10 guys. It seems like the same guys blowing calls over and over. On the flip side, there is probably 10 or so exceptionally good umpires in MLB. The rest are just meh.

 

I don't know how much it would cost if the league had to buy these guys out, but it would be money well spent. Earlier this season the Jays had a game with a 27 year old plate umpire. I don't remember his name, but he was very good for the 7 or so innings I watched, so the talent is out there to improve the crews.

 

Yeah I'm sure you'll be toting that same line when we have replacement umpires.

[G-Snarls]

Sucks guys like Maddon and Melvin getting ejected for complaining about a call when they were obviously right

[SumoNinja]

Yeah I'm sure you'll be toting that same line when we have replacement umpires.

 

Who's talking about replacement umpires, it's about getting rid of the Angel Hernandez's, CB Bucknors and Bob Davidsons of the league. You know, promoting talented umpires and getting rid of the crap.

[G-Snarls]

I presume these umpires have a strong union that makes firing experienced but bad ones almost impossible???

[Metallijay]

YEs the umps have been atrocious but watch nfl games? The refs there are brutal, problem is they have no repercussions.

[GD]

CPU umpires would be great.

[GeorgiaPeach]

I'm no Kirk, but MLB Network implied that the crew chief makes the final call. The big controversy was Angel Hernandez is the same person who had a heated argument with Melvin and tossed him for a bad call. Hernandez is the crew chief and some people think that he made that final decision just to piss Melvin off

 

How do you know he made that decision to piss Melvin off. Credible source or 15 year old mind imagining things?

[Metallijay]

CPU umpires would be great.

 

Agreed.

[G-Snarls]

Ouch

 

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Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi Angel Hernandez, one of the worst umpires in MLB, wasn’t the most deserving candidate for the temporary promotion to chief.

[Metallijay]

Ouch

 

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Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi Angel Hernandez, one of the worst umpires in MLB, wasn’t the most deserving candidate for the temporary promotion to chief.

 

Stupid question of the day.............Who is Jon Morosi?

[G-Snarls]

Stupid question of the day.............Who is Jon Morosi?

 

Baseball reporter for FOX sports

 

He's decent, worth following on Twitter

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/writer/Jon_Paul_Morosi

[wilko]

Brutal call on that one. Clearly a home run.

[Metallijay]

If 1 call is the difference in a ballgame you deserve to lose!

 

Doesnt work that way, what if ta bad call happens with 2 outs in the ninth?