2013 draft

[Caper]

I hope these threads are stored... so people can look back and see how pumped they were over so many scrubs... and wonder how they could have missed that guy that went at 25.

[SpeedyGose]

I'll see if someone local agrees first.

 

I can but odds are I won't give a s*** after the Jays pick

[SpeedyGose]

OMG our MLB pitching is like so bad!! Lets get sum armzzzz

 

*prevailing thought in the war room today*

 

Why does it surprise me still that the Jays front office is filled with non-thinkers

[Angrioter]

[SexyNewForum]

We need a "Official draft thread"

 

yeah if someone could make a thread with the updated list of 5-6 seemingly likeliest players the bluejays will draft (given mock draft sources) that would be sick.

bring us right into the draft at 7

[jays_fever]

Can someone explain to me why baseball doesnt just make hard signing bonuses for players? Either you sign for a specific X amount of dollars or you dont

[Daniel Labude]

If they pass on Meadows or Frazier to take Ball or Crawford I'm gonna be enraged.

 

I think I would stop posting for a while if that happens.

[TheHurl]

OMG our MLB pitching is like so bad!! Lets get sum armzzzz

 

*prevailing thought in the war room today*

 

I have heard by a sports media person who I quite like (Sid) "If the Jays don't take pitchers with their first 11 picks AA should be fired.

[TheHurl]

Can someone explain to me why baseball doesnt just make hard signing bonuses for players? Either you sign for a specific X amount of dollars or you dont

 

Fear of losing players to other sports.

[JaysFanToTheEnd]

I bet they will pass on either one of them if they slip and pick someone that no one has even mentioned.

[Nox]

I have heard by a sports media person who I quite like (Sid) "If the Jays don't take pitchers with their first 11 picks AA should be fired.

 

Sigh.

 

Sometimes I wish I was paid to simply talk with no logical thought behind.

[Boxcar]

Sigh.

 

Sometimes I wish I was paid to simply talk with no logical thought behind.

 

To be fair, Sid is more of an entertainer than a knowledgeable sports guy and he's good at what he does.

 

It's truly amazing that so little thought is put into this drafting hitters vs. pitchers debate. The information is very accessible and easily looked up. The conclusion is quite clear.

 

So, I'll be surprised if Houston takes Appel or Gray...but I definitely wouldn't even be looking at Moran.

[RIPEXPOS]

I'm sure the reason is the MLBPA prefers it this way.

[imsorry4beatinU]

Predict what's your top 10 picks. Lets see who gets the closest.

Mine is:

 

(Astros)- Gray

(Cubs)- Appel

(Rox)- Bryant

(Twins)- Stewart

(Indians)- Moran

(Marlins)- Shipley

(Red Sox)- Frazier

(Royals)- Bickford

(Pirates)- McGuire

(Jays)- Meadows

[ace3113]

Not sure if it's been posted, but there's a couple of wild rumors floating around. One via Peter Gammons says the Rockies might take Dominic Smith with the 3rd pick. While there other from Kiley McDaniel (I think) says the Marlins are considering Rob Kaminsky with the 6th pick as Loria has personally attended a few workouts with him recently. Take it with a grain of salt though. Could be just smoke screens.

[RIPEXPOS]

Haven't been able to scout the draft at all this year, but I will say that I'm almost completely off high school bats.

 

Give me college bats, athletes, and filthy arms. Obviously don't pass on a Mike Trout, though I'd have put him in the athlete category his draft year, but it just seems to be such a rare thing for High School bats to translate. Just too many level jumps needed for them, and the typical high school arm that they are generally going against is in a whole different (and inferior) galaxy compared to the arms they will have to face in the majors. If they even get there...

 

Kris Bryant would have been nice to sign though.

[Angrioter]

Predict what's your top 10 picks. Lets see who gets the closest.

Mine is:

 

(Astros)- Moran (save money)

(Cubs)- Gray

(Rox)- Bryant

(Twins)- Stewart

(Indians)-Appel

(Marlins)- Shipley

(Red Sox)- Frazier

(Royals)- Ball

(Pirates)- McGuire

(Jays)- Bickford

[ace3113]

My dream draft:

 

10. Clint Frazier, RF

47. Riley Unroe, SS

83. Tom Milone, CF / Nick Longhi, 1B

115. Christian Arroyo, 2B

 

I doubt we don't take a pitcher, but that's a lot of guys with a very good chance to hit.

[Daniel Labude]

My prediction:

 

(Astros)- Moran

(Cubs)- Appel

(Rox)- Bryant

(Twins)- Stewart

(Indians)-Gray

(Marlins)- Shipley

(Red Sox)- Meadows

(Royals)- Ball

(Pirates)- McGuire

(Jays)- Frazier

[ace3113]

Scout.com's Mock Draft

http://sbb.scout.com/2/1297610.html

 

Pick

10 Toronto Blue Jays CF Austin MeadowsGrayson HS (GA)

Player: Austin Meadows

Height: 6-3

Weight: 220

Age (Draft Day): 18.09

Current Team: Grayson HS (GA) Position: OF

Bats: L

Throws: L

 

ANALYSIS: Trey Ball is the target here and is expected to be the pick unless Frazier somehow slips this far. J.P. Crawford and Meadows are the secondary preferences and I think the Jays have Meadows ahead of Crawford, but this one is a close call.

[ace3113]

KLaw chat stuff:

 

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/48183

 

Steve (California)

 

Craziest rumor you are hearing right now?

 

Klaw(2:03 PM)

 

Nothing I haven't posted - Dominic Smith to Colorado was one, Phil Bickford to Toronto or Seattle was another. Bickford is an odd one, because some scouts adore him, and others want no part of him because he doesn't have a present average breaking ball.

 

Jay (London)

 

See anyone using a similar strategy to Blue Jays' last year? Over slot early and WAY under late

 

Klaw (2:04 PM)

 

Bunch of teams will. The new system makes that a very appealing strategy.

 

Steve (California)

 

Legend Peter Gammons just tweeted that Bickford to Royals is a done deal. Are you hearing the same thing?

 

Klaw (2:12 PM)

 

I am not. Heard the opposite a few hours ago. Doesn't make him wrong - I guess we could both be right, if Bickford dropped his price suddenly.

 

Jim (Rhode Island )

 

I'm not sold on Stewart as a top ten pick. Aren't scouts worried about his control ?

 

Klaw (2:16 PM)

 

If he had plus control now, he'd go first overall. Almost every prospect has a question mark on him. He's a great athlete with four pitches, two plus, and a workable delivery.

 

Guest (Neverland)

 

Thoughts on 2 Canadians .. Any chance O'Neill sneaks into round #1, or Quantrill being snapped up by Jays?

 

Klaw (2:28 PM)

 

No chance, and doubtful given the Stanford commitment.

 

Adam (LA)

 

How realistic do you think the rumors about Smith to the Rockies are? If that happens what does that do to Bryant and Moran?

 

Klaw (2:33 PM)

 

Two sources told me last night that they're not taking him, although they like him a lot.

 

Renan (NYC)

 

Hey Keith, I know one of the reasons that you have Frazier below Meadows is his height (or lack thereof) but do you have the same concerns about Smith and Peterson, especially as future 1b? Or does the fact that they're likely to be at 1b mitigate that some?

 

Klaw (2:55 PM)

 

It's not height specifically but what that implies for future development and power. I prefer Smith's swing (mechanics and left-handedness) to the others'.

 

Mike (Toronto)

 

Are you more bearish on Beede than others? (your comment on his W/L record....)

 

Klaw (3:02 PM)

 

No, I just don't see any argument that he was top three in the country this year.

 

Ben (Canada)

 

Can you see either Frazier or Moran dropping to the Jays?

 

Klaw (3:08 PM)

 

Yes, actually a good chance one of them gets there.

 

Ryan (Markham)

 

Klaw - I hear the Jays have shown *no* interest in Clint Frazier. Do you think that is true, and if so, care to speculate on why that would be? Thank you

 

Klaw (3:09 PM)

 

I do, and I think there are a lot of reasons. Many people don't like the swing mechanically, he struggles with offspeed stuff, and he may end up a LF. He's not a lock - he's a very good prospect, but I hear readers treating him like he's the next Mike Trout, which he's not.

 

tlheard (Cartwright, NL)

 

Seems to be a 1/2 dozen realistic picks for the Jays at 10. Guessing they're going for best player available?

 

Klaw (3:17 PM)

 

I believe they take the best of Ball, Mcguire, Crawford still available. (Best in their view, that is.)

[theblujay]

"Ben (Canada)

 

Can you see either Frazier or Moran dropping to the Jays?

 

Klaw (3:08 PM)

 

Yes, actually a good chance one of them gets there."

 

PLEASE

 

"Seems to be a 1/2 dozen realistic picks for the Jays at 10. Guessing they're going for best player available?

 

Klaw (3:17 PM)

 

I believe they take the best of Ball, Mcguire, Crawford still available. (Best in their view, that is.)"

 

OH NO PLEASE NO

[mitchf]

Meadows

Frazier

Crawford

 

My 3 hopefuls. I expect somebody who was slotted to go anywhere from 25-35 with tremendous speed.

[GD]

My draftboard:

 

1.) Bryant

2.) Shipley

3.) Frazier

4.) Meadows

5.) Smith

6.) Manea

7.) Stanek

8.) Ball

9.) Crawford

10.) McGuire

[GD]

You forget Appel bro?

 

I put guys who there's even a .000001 chance of being there. If Appel is still around at 10 I will eat my underwear. Yes, I'm willing to make that a bet lol.

[Angrioter]

Trever Allen (RF, Arizona St.)

Son of former Major League outfielder Jamie Allen

 

Robert Amaro (3B, Virginia)

Nephew of Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro

 

Jordan Anderson (CF, Columbia State CC)

Son of former NFL player Jesse Anderson

 

Kyle Arnsberg (C, La. Tech)

Son of former Major League pitcher Brad Arnsberg

 

Tad Barton (RHP, Millersville Univ.)

Son of former Major League player and scout Shawn Barton

 

Cody Bellinger (1B, Hamilton HS)

Son of former Major League player Clay Bellinger

 

Michael Benjamin (3B, Arizona St.)

Son of former Major League infielder Mike Benjamin

 

Cameron Berra (1B, Eastern Illinois)

Relative of Yankees great Yogi Berra

 

Mitch Bevacqua (SS, Lake City HS)

Nephew of former Major League player Kurt Bevacqua

 

Cavan Biggio (2B, St. Thomas HS)

Son of former Major League infielder/outfielder Craig Biggio

 

Luke Borders (3B, Winter Haven HS)

Son of former Major League catcher Pat Borders

 

Justin Brantley (RHP, Siena)

Nephew of former MLB outfielder and hitting coach Mickey Brantley and cousin of Indians outfielder Michael Brantley

 

Hunter Brothers (RHP, Lipscomb Univ.)

Brother of Rockies pitcher Rex Brothers

 

Gunnar Buhner (INF, Mount Si HS)

Son of former Mariners outfielder Jay Buhner

 

Austin Cangelosi (SS, Sandburg HS)

Son of former Major League outfielder John Cangelosi

 

Kacy Clemens (RHP, Memorial HS)

Son of former Major League pitcher Roger Clemens

 

J.P. Crawford (SS, Lakewood HS) -- No. 19 on MLB.com's Top 100 Draft Prospects list

Cousin of Dodgers outfielder Carl Crawford

 

Carson Cross (RHP, Connecticut)

Son of former NBA player Jeff Cross

 

Edwin Diaz (SS, Ladislao Martinez HS)

Son of former Major League infielder Edwin Diaz

 

Ryan Eades (RHP, LSU)

Son of former Minor League player Ned Eades

 

Luke Farrell (RHP, Northwestern)

Son of Red Sox manager John Farrell

 

John (JJ) Franco (2B/SS, Brown)

Son of former Major League pitcher John Franco

 

Brett Geren (INF/C, Princeton)

Son of former Major League player and manager Bob Geren

 

Ronnie Gideon (3B, Hallsville HS)

Son of Rockies field coordinator Ron Gideon

 

Kendrick Gutierrez (1B, American Senior HS)

Son of former Major League infielder Ricky Gutierrez

 

Hunter Harvey (RHP, Bandys HS) -- No. 22 on MLB.com's Top 100 Draft Prospects list

Son of former Major League pitcher Bryan Harvey and brother of Minor Leaguer Kris Harvey

 

Blake Hennessey (SS, Arlington Country Day)

Son of Dodgers scout Scott Hennessey

 

Jacob Heyward (LF, Eagle's Landing Christian Academy)

Brother of Atlanta outfielder Jason Heyward

 

Kenny Hill (3B, Carroll HS)

Son of former Major League pitcher Ken Hill

 

Jordan Hinshaw (CF, Georgetown College)

Son of former Major Leaguer George Hinshaw

 

Chad Hockin (RHP, Bonita HS)

Grandson of Hall of Famer Harmon Killebrew

 

Daniel Howell (1B, Oklahoma Baptist)

Son of former Major League player Roy Howell

 

Torii Hunter Jr. (OF, Prosper HS)

Son of Tigers outfielder Torii Hunter Sr.

 

Joe Jackson (C, Citadel)

Great great nephew of former Major League player Joe Jackson

 

Alex Jones (3B, Pell City HS)

Son of former Major League pitcher Todd Jones

 

Ricky Knapp (RHP, Florida Gulf Coast Univ.)

Son of Dodgers pitching coordinator Rich Knapp

 

C.J. Latham (CF, Bishop Gorman HS)

Son of former Major League outfielder Chris Latham

 

Adam Law (2B, Brigham Young)

Son of former Major League outfielder Vance Law and grandson of Vern Law

 

Mark Leiter Jr. (RHP, NJ Institute of Technology)

Son of former Major League pitcher Mark Leiter and nephew of former Major League pitcher Al Leiter

 

Brandon Leskanic (RHP, Lake Mary HS)

Son of former Major League pitcher Curt Leskanic

 

Ryan Lidge (C, Barrington HS)

Cousin of former Major League pitcher Brad Lidge

 

Dylan Manwaring (3B, Horseheads HS)

Son of former Major League catcher Kirt Manwaring

 

Jacob May (LF, Coastal Carolina Univ.)

Grandson of former MLB outfielder Lee May and son of Mariners hitting coordinator Lee May Jr

 

L.J. Mazzilli (2B/SS, Connecticut)

Son of former Major League player Lee Mazzilli

 

Jaron Long (RHP, Ohio State)

Son of Yankees hitting coach Kevin Long

 

Ryan McCarvel (C, Canyon Springs HS)

Nephew of former NBA player Chris Mills

 

Collin Moran (SS, UNC Chapel Hill) -- No. 6 on MLB.com's Top 100 Draft Prospects list

Brother of Mariners pitching prospect Brian Moran and nephew of former Major League outfielder B.J. Surhoff

 

Dillon Moyer (SS, UC San Diego)

Son of former Major League pitcher Jamie Moyer

 

Trey Nielsen (RHP, Univ. Utah)

Son of former Major Leaguer Scott Nielson

 

Mike O'Neill (RF, Michigan)

Nephew of former Major Leaguer Paul O'Neill

 

Joshua Palacios (CF, Telecommunications Art & Tech HS)

Nephew of former Major Leaguer Rey Palacios

 

Preston Palmeiro (1B, Heritage HS)

Son of former Major Leaguer Rafael Palmeiro

 

Josh Pettitte (RHP, Deer Park HS)

Son of Yankees pitcher Andy Pettitte

 

Mitch Piatnik (SS, Winter Haven HS)

Son of Arizona scout Mike Piatnik

 

Zach Plesac (RHP, Crown Point HS)

Nephew of former Major League pitcher Dan Plesac

 

Cal Quantrill (RHP, Trinity College School)

Son of former Major League pitcher Paul Quantrill

 

Manny Ramirez (1B, The Pendelton School)

Son of former Major League outfielder Manny Ramirez

 

Ali Rodriguez (SS, New York Institute of Technology)

Nephew of Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez

 

Dalton Saberhagen (LHP, Tennessee)

Son of former Major League pitcher Bret Saberhagen

 

Lukas Schiraldi (RHP, Navarro College)

Son of former Major League pitcher Calvin Schiraldi

 

Travis Seabrooke (LHP, Cestwood SS)

Son of former NHL player Glen Seabrooke

 

Cody Semler (SS, Weatherford College)

Son of Mets area scout Max Semler

 

Jordan Sheffield (RHP, Tullahoma HS)

Nephew of former Major League outfielder Gary Sheffield

 

Gabe Speier (LHP, Dos Pueblos HS)

Nephew of former Major League player Chris Speier

 

Ian Stiffler (RHP, Somerset Senior HS)

Grandson of former Major League player Tom Qualters

 

D.J. Sylve (RHP, Southeastern CC)

Grandson of Hall of Famer Willie Stargell

 

Taylor Terrasas (SS, La. Tech)

Son of Mets pro scout Rudy Terrasas

 

Riley Unroe(SS, Desert Ridge HS) -- No. 92 on MLB.com's Top 100 Draft Prospects list

Son of former Major League player Tim Unroe

 

Derek Vaughn (RHP, Texas Wesleyan)

Son of former Major Leaguer DeWayne Vaughn

 

Nicholas Velarde (RHP, Midland College)

Son of former Major League infielder Randy Velarde

 

Ben Verlander (RHP, Old Dominion)

Brother of Tigers starting pitcher Justin Verlander

 

Chad Wallach (C, Cal State Fullerton)

Son of former Major Leaguer Tim Wallach

 

Geremy Walton (CF, East Coweta HS)

Nephew of former Major Leaguer Jerome Walton

 

Brodie Weiss, SS (Regis Jesuit HS, Aurora, Colo.)

Son of Rockies manager Walt Weiss

 

Erich Weiss (3B, Univ. Texas)

Son of former Major League player Gary Weiss

 

Seaver Whalen (SS, Union HS)

Son of Milwaukee scout Shawn Whalen

 

Daniel Williams (CF, Cedar Ridge HS)

Nephew of former NFL player Ken Taylor and brother of NFL player Aaron Williams

 

Trey Williams (3B, College of the Canyons)

Son of former Major League infielder Ed Williams

 

Kean Wong (C, Waiakea HS)

Brother of Cardinals No. 3 prospect Kolton Wong

 

Jordan Wren (OF, Landmark Christian School)

Son of Atlanta general manager Frank Wren

 

Kyle Wren (LF, Georgia Tech)

Son of Atlanta general manager Frank Wren

 

Mike Yastrzemski (RF, Vanderbilt)

Grandson of Hall of Famer Carl Yastrzemski

 

Cody Yount (OF, Virginia Commonwealth)

Son of former Major League pitcher Larry Yount and nephew of Hall of Famer Robin Yount

 

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[GD]

Appel is a senior and considered the best pitcher in the draft by many. No way he slips. The Cubs will absolutely pay his demands.

 

Hence why he isn't on my board.

[JaysFanToTheEnd]

1 Moran

2 Appeal

3 Bryant

4 Gray

5 Meadows

6 Shipley

7 Stewart

8 Bickford

9 McGuire

10 Ball

[Abomination]

1. Gray

2. Appel

3. Bryant

4. Moran

5. Stewart

6. Shipley

7. Meadows

8. Ball

9. Manaea

10. Frazier

[GD]

4. Moran

______

 

9. Manaea

 

Pretty ballsy picks.