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Q: Has Marcus Stroman surpassed Aaron Sanchez as top Blue Jays prospect pitcher?

A: No, but it’s getting closer. I’m still not sold on Stroman being a starter long term, and we’ll really have to watch how susceptible he becomes to the long ball as he reaches Triple-A and the Majors. Because he’s short, he’s going to struggle to stay on top of the ball and get a good downward plane on his pitches.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/marc-hulet-prospects-chat-8213/

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DuckDuckGose First Round Pick

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DSJ has emerged as a real prospect, just like we'd all initially hoped he would. He'll move up the organization's prospect rankings pretty quickly this season.

 

The bat definitely profiles better at 2B than the OF. I think they'll try that experiment again next Spring and go from there. IMO if he can't play an above average CF he wont have an MLB career in the OF. His bat doesn't profile in either corner at the MLB level.

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In early action:

Barreto 2-4 2(2B) K

Tellez 1-3

Jansen 1-3

Tinoco 5.2IP 1H 1ER 2BB 5K (What do we know about this guy) He's only 18 and has a around 9K/9 without too many walks

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In early action:

Barreto 2-4 2(2B) K

Tellez 1-3

Jansen 1-3

Tinoco 5.2IP 1H 1ER 2BB 5K (What do we know about this guy) He's only 18 and has a around 9K/9 without too many walks

Slow start for him but Tellez did have 2 RBI today, including one which came from a walk-off single.

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The bat definitely profiles better at 2B than the OF. I think they'll try that experiment again next Spring and go from there. IMO if he can't play an above average CF he wont have an MLB career in the OF. His bat doesn't profile in either corner at the MLB level.

 

 

 

they tried to convert him to second base?

DuckDuckGose First Round Pick

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they tried to convert him to second base?

 

Not sure how hard they tried. I know they thought about it and that some scouts think he's athletic enough to stick there.

theblujay Dunedin Blue Jays

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Exactly... He acts like hes overcoming some major life flaw. I understand ideally you want someone who is 6'6 240 on the mound. But hes average height. The whole this is overblown. Hes going to be fine. Downward plane lol. You're already standing on a hill.

 

There's definitely some truth to it, but I think he'll be fine.

DuckDuckGose First Round Pick

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Drabek had a pretty good start;

 

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Richmond Bottom of the 1st

  • Ryan Lollis grounds out, shortstop Kevin Nolan to first baseman Gabe Jacobo.
  • Joe Panik grounds out, pitcher Kyle Drabek to first baseman Gabe Jacobo.
  • Javier Herrera walks.
  • Mark Minicozzi strikes out swinging.

Richmond Bottom of the 2nd

  • Angel Villalona homers (6) on a fly ball to center field.
  • Adam Duvall grounds out, shortstop Kevin Nolan to first baseman Gabe Jacobo.
  • Tyler LaTorre grounds out, second baseman Lance Zawadzki to first baseman Gabe Jacobo.
  • Jarrett Parker strikes out swinging.

Richmond Bottom of the 3rd

  • Kelby Tomlinson strikes out swinging.
  • Ryan Lollis grounds out, second baseman Lance Zawadzki to first baseman Gabe Jacobo.
  • Joe Panik lines out to first baseman Gabe Jacobo.

Richmond Bottom of the 4th

  • Javier Herrera grounds out, third baseman Kevin Ahrens to first baseman Gabe Jacobo.
  • Mark Minicozzi flies out to center fielder Adam Loewen.
  • Angel Villalona grounds out, shortstop Kevin Nolan to first baseman Gabe Jacobo.

 

Still keeping the walks down too.

DuckDuckGose First Round Pick

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BUF getting no hit;

 

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Rough outing for Happ;

 

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[TD=align: center]3[/TD]

[TD=align: center]3[/TD]

[TD=align: center]3[/TD]

[TD=align: center]6[/TD]

[TD=align: center]0[/TD]

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Good, not great outing from Sanchez;

 

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DuckDuckGose First Round Pick

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DuckDuckGose, thanks for posting these summaries and stats man! Its awesome and very convenient.

 

No worries. I just figured out how to get tables in to my posts so you can expect a lot more!

DuckDuckGose First Round Pick

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Walden and Labourt take the mound tonight. Brentz and Smoral already threw today.

 

 

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[TD=align: center]2[/TD]

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Brentz had a decent outing. Struggled with his command to the tune of 2BB's and a hit batter. Got out of the inning without giving up a hit or run though.

 

GCL Tigers Bottom of the 6th

  • Pitching Change: Jacob Brentz replaces Corey Gorman.
  • Jacob Kapstein walks.
  • Orvin Tovar strikes out swinging.
  • Steven Fuentes strikes out swinging.
  • Drew Longley hit by pitch. Jacob Kapstein to 2nd.
  • Rashad Brown walks. Jacob Kapstein to 3rd. Drew Longley to 2nd.
  • Javier Betancourt flies out to right fielder Andres De Aza.

Smoral got rocked and was extremely wild. Only managed to get 1 batter out. BB, H, 2 HBP, 1R while pitching.

 

GCL Tigers Bottom of the 7th

  • Pitching Change: Matthew Smoral replaces Jacob Brentz.
  • Ismael Salgado walks.
  • Jesus Ustariz hit by pitch. Ismael Salgado to 2nd.
  • Jose Zambrano out on a sacrifice bunt, third baseman Edwin Fuentes to second baseman John Tolisano. Ismael Salgado to 3rd. Jesus Ustariz to 2nd.
  • Jacob Kapstein hit by pitch.
  • Orvin Tovar singles on a ground ball to right fielder Andres De Aza. Ismael Salgado scores. Jesus Ustariz to 3rd. Jacob Kapstein to 2nd.
  • Pitching Change: Kamakani Usui replaces Matthew Smoral

Fuentes gave up a couple more runs (credited to Smoral) but eventually got out of it;

 

 

  • Steven Fuentes singles on a line drive to left fielder Thomas Collins III. Jesus Ustariz scores. Jacob Kapstein scores. Orvin Tovar to 2nd.
  • Drew Longley reaches on a force attempt, missed catch error by third baseman Edwin Fuentes, assist to shortstop Franklin Barreto. Orvin Tovar to 3rd. Steven Fuentes to 2nd.
  • Rashad Brown singles on a line drive to left fielder Thomas Collins III. Orvin Tovar scores. Steven Fuentes to 3rd. Drew Longley to 2nd.
  • Javier Betancourt out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder Josh Almonte. Steven Fuentes scores.
  • Ismael Salgado pops out to third baseman Edwin Fuentes in foul territory.

DuckDuckGose First Round Pick

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Ugh, bad start to Smoral's career.

 

Ya, it's been terrible so far. Hasn't pitched since April 2012 and in pro ball at all yet though. If Smoral is still this wild at the end of the month I'll be more concerned. Definitely didn't come in and take the world by storm like I thought he might. haha

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For me, this 11.2 IP "career" sample of Smoral's means the exact same thing as nothing, and it will be status quo at the end of the month. We're talking about a guy who has missed a year and a half. 11.2 IP is just so miniscule. Small sample sizes are small sample sizes, and should be taken with a grain of salt.
Angrioter MVP

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Ugh, bad start to Smoral's career.

 

Ya, it's been terrible so far. Hasn't pitched since April 2012 and in pro ball at all yet though. If Smoral is still this wild at the end of the month I'll be more concerned. Definitely didn't come in and take the world by storm like I thought he might. haha

 

Smoral 11.1IP, 10H, 13K's......He'll be ok.

Atothe Vancouver Canadians

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Wild but so early in his development. I suspect they will continue to work with him in fall camp and he come back with improvements
P2F Toronto Blue Jays

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Starting to get excited about Nay. Could be our emerging position prospect that makes it in the top 100 in the next year.

 

I remember Angrioter being all over Nay's dick when we drafted him. Props to him.

Angrioter MVP

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I remember Angrioter being all over Nay's dick when we drafted him. Props to him.

 

You're good at oral sex

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IowaJay Prep Ball

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Another excellent start by Robson. 6 innings, 1 run, 4 hits, 1 bb, 6 k's

 

Vancouver pitchers combined for 14 strikeouts in this game.

DuckDuckGose First Round Pick

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Hutch and Norris take the mound this afternoon. Both games have already started.

 

Lansing has a free radio broadcast for those who are feeling lazy this Sunday here is the link; http://tunein.com/player/station/198314/?partnerId=pe6Zjasg&utm_source=MILB&utm_medium=PopupLink&utm_content=PopupLink&utm_campaign=Lansing_Lugnuts

 

Norris FB working in the low-to-mid 90's so far today. According to the broadcasters through 3IP "no Tin Caps player has looked comfortable today", raving about Norris' stuff. Has gotten ahead of most batters so far. Seems like he may have started to turn a corner in his development.

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