The Prospect/Minor Leagues Thread

[Caper]

Is Anthony Alford still kicking around a Jays camp?

[z3r0s]

That guy needs to put more time into ball. It's a damn shame he if he sticks with football.

[Atothe]

We should all forget about Alford, he's a raw about to be 20 year old who plays baseball competitively for 2 weeks at best

[Angrioter]

Frank Viola III debut as a knuckleballer

2 scoreless, walk, 3 K's

[P2F]

Mike Rosenbaum top-50 prospects

 

I guess we'll have to assume that he's already graduated Stroman, even though he hasn't crossed that threshold.

[Atothe]

I just wish Alford would quit football. They keep sending people to talk to him. If he focused on baseball only and starting playing full time he could put himself in a top 10 prospect conversation again.

 

He's from the American South, football is their soccer. It takes precedence unlike no other.

[NLJays]

Most of our highly-rated hitters in extended have been hitting well: link

[Ziggyy108]

Yes but its becoming more likely the Football thing isn't going to work out for him. He needs to have a big season this year just to be drafted. Hes switched position, switched schools. People said he was a good Football player he was just a better baseball player. I don't even think people here realise what kind of prospect he could be if he focused on baseball.

 

There is no proof that Football won't work for the kid. He just made a position switch. We know the kid is super athletic. There are a ton of guys who are 5-6 round picks or even UDFA that make it in the NFL. It's completely reasonable to believe that with the right coaching and system he could make it to the NFL.

 

I've never seen the guy play either sport so I don't know where is talents are. But he has every right to push the football thing as far as he can take it, especially if that's where his heart is. AA knew the risk in drafting him. He dropped big time for a reason. And then AA knew the even bigger risk in signing him and still letting him play football.

[theblujay]

Alford transferred last year so he didn't even get to play at all last season. So now this year he's a sophomore at Ole Miss, and he switched from QB to DB. I have no idea how good he is, but I don't think he's projected to be drafted at this point

[z3r0s]

Alford transferred last year so he didn't even get to play at all last season. So now this year he's a sophomore at Ole Miss, and he switched from QB to DB. I have no idea how good he is, but I don't think he's projected to be drafted at this point

 

Whats the roster implications if he flames out of football and dedicates himself to baseball full time? He'll have to be protected in the rule V earlier. Is that it?

[imsorry4beatinU]

From Batter box

http://www.battersbox.ca/article.php?story=20140610142731654&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

Extended Spring Training Stats - Pitchers

Yesterday we looked at the hitters stats from extended, today it is the pitchers turn. There were 47 pitchers listed on the stats sheet but 11 of those were on rehab or were later promoted to a full season team. That leaves 36 pitchers. Of that 36, 27 threw 20 inninings or more. The most innings thrown by a pitcher was 43 by Jesus Tinoco.

 

The draft was last week so how are the 2013 draftees doing?

 

IP ERA WHIP K% BB%

Clinton Hollon 20.1 5.82 1.34 18.3% 6.9%

Evan Smith 36.2 3.48 1.24 19.5% 6.5%

Daniel Lietz 38.0 2.84 1.13 19.1% 7.6%

Connor Greene 21.2 2.97 1.27 23.2% 8.8%

Jake Brentz 32.1 2.80 1.62 14.2% 16.9%

The Jays third round pick, Patrick Murphy, had TJ surgery and has not pitched yet. Clinton Hollon was hit around a bit before he had to have his TJ. Jake Brentz has had some issues with throwing strikes. The other three are somewhat comparable.

 

 

How about pitchers drafted before 2013?

 

IP ERA WHIP K% BB%

Mark Biggs 17.0 5.82 1.76 12.4% 11.1%

Ryan Borucki 27.0 0.67 0.93 30.2% 5.7%

Tyler Gonzales 21.1 8.53 2.37 18.5% 31.8%

Matt Smoral 17.0 6.35 2.00 21.2% 21.2%

Zak Wasilewski 39.1 1.84 1.18 14.7% 12.9%

Four of these pitchers are having trouble with strikes and walks. Wasilewski will have a chance to pitch in Vancouver given that he was in Bluefield last season. Ryan Borucki was a 15th round pick in 2012 because he was injured and needed TJ surgery. He appears to have come back well from the surgery and has the best stats of these starters. Matt Smoral's numbers are disappointing given the high hopes for him this season.

 

 

There are a couple of Canadian pitchers in extended. Andrew Case was signed out of the Blue Jay tournament at the RC last fall. He has pitched 34.1 innings with a 3.43 ERA and a 0.82 WHIP. He has only walked two hitters and has 32 K's. Sean Ratcliffe from Ajax, Ontario has pitched 15.1 innings with a 1.79 ERA and a 1.79 WHIP. He has walked 18 and K'd 12, but he has only given up 9 hits.

 

 

And here are the pitchers from Latin America.

 

IP ERA WHIP K% BB% Birth M/Y

Miguel Burgos 22.0 4.91 1.68 18.5% 11.7% 06-1995

Oscar Cabrera 37.0 2.68 1.30 17.6% 8.8% 05-1994

Miguel Castro 18.3 1.48 0.99 38.6% 8.2% 12-1994

Francisco Diaz 28.0 5.14 1.75 9.8% 15.0% 02-1993

Francis Eduardo 33.0 3.27 1.52 17.5% 12.8% 05-1994

Jairo Labourt 26.0 1.73 0.85 26.0% 9.0% 03-1994

Angel Perdomo 24.1 1.12 1.45 26.1% 16.8% 05-1994

Francisco Rios 28.0 1.29 1.07 25.4% 8.8% 05-1995

Alejan. Solarte 27.1 2.99 1.25 13.9% 15.6% 09-1994

Starlyn Suriel 40.1 3.14 0.92 23.5% 4.5% 11-1993

Jesus Tinoco 43.0 2.51 1.14 16.3% 7.9% 04-1995

Miguel Castro has a great strikeout rate and a good walk rate. His WHIP and ERA are good too. Jairo Labourt and Starlyn Suriel also have good numbers and they are headed to Vancouver with Castro showing that the best WHIP pitchers got the highest assignments. Those three look like the best of the latin pitchers in extended, from a stats perspective. It should be noted that Suriel has a 50 game drug suspension in his past.

 

Oscar Cabrera, Francisco Rios and Jesus Tinoco also have good numbers. Cabrera and Tinoco's strikeout rate is lower than the guys headed to Vancouver. Francisco Diaz, Alejandro Solarte, Miguel Burgos, Francis Eduardo and Angel Perdomo have had walk problems. Perdomo at least kept his K rate up.

[SantosLHalper21]

 

Lucky bastard

 

Yeah...that bastard. She's looking good in the Jays hat.

 

http://t.co/JiuwRPpSgI

[GD]

That's why I have Sanchez > Hoffman right now. But I want to see him start getting deeper into games consistently.

[Caper]

That's why I have Sanchez > Hoffman right now. But I want to see him start getting deeper into games consistently.

 

Weren't you saying a week ago that Sanchez would likely not amount to anything?

[GD]

Weren't you saying a week ago that Sanchez would likely not amount to anything?

 

He likely won't. Doesn't mean I'm not cheering for him.

 

Needs to start striking out more guys and walking less. If he can continue his last two starts I'll be happy but I'm not expecting it.

 

And I still have Norris >> Sanchez lol

[GD]

That's a really good k-rate.

 

Definitely gotta keep an eye on him.

[theblujay]

http://i.imgur.com/Ien5LcY.png

 

Also, over the past 30 days,

 

http://i.imgur.com/mMFHysj.png

 

Walks and BABIP stand out

[Angrioter]

Kellen Sweeney released from the org.

 

Finally.

 

He and Chris Hawkins are/was bust

Edited June 13, 2014 by Angrioter

[billjc33]

Norris is untouchable move him up!!!

[43211234]

The A+ pitching matchup tonight was Daniel Norris vs. Nathan Dorris. (I thought it was funny at least)

[Angrioter]

Roemon Fields CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

Franklin Barreto SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

David Harris 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

Boomer Collins RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

Seth Conner 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

Jonathan Davis LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

Sean Hurley DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

Christian Vazquez 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

Daniel Klein C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

 

SP - Tirado

 

Lineup

Org Guy

Top Prospect

Org Guy

Org Guy

Org Guy

Org Guy

Org Guy

Org Guy

Org Guy

 

SP - Top Prospect

 

Barreto, Tirado + tons of org guys

[Angrioter]

http://www.milb.com/milb/multimedia/audio.jsp

 

Listen in!

 

The rotation is stacked. Tirado, Labourt, Case(no hitter at tournament 12, destroyed EST), Castro

 

I like Canadian Case. Castro 92-95 T97

[Angrioter]

Org Guys are representing the C's well - 3-1 in the top of 2.

 

King Kalfus died or something?

[Trouba95]

Tirado = bust

[Angrioter]

Tirado = bust

 

You cannot learn to have a good "Stuff" ..You can learn how to throw, to command your pitches but you never can learn to have good "stuff".

Tirado 4IP, walk, 3 K's

[43211234]

I open Vancouver radio stream and the very first thing I hear is: "Vazquez, light-skinned with piercing, hazel eyes."

 

lol

[Trouba95]

Barreto: 3-3 with three singles, BB

[theblujay]

Barreto is gonna win the batting title in that league this year

[GD]

Barreto and Norris = my boys

[Atothe]

Barreto is too good for NWL, should have started in Lansing.