jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I really liked what Spanky did too. Not sure how he managed to get that to work but he made out great. He's a winner . Yea I was confused how exactly he got Gray for just the 6th pick. Then I realized I got what I wanted out of Gray and stopped caring. Good swap for him
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Yea I was confused how exactly he got Gray for just the 6th pick. Then I realized I got what I wanted out of Gray and stopped caring. Good swap for him Kat preferred the pick so I made that swap. 2013 was a fairly weak draft and hitters are slightly more value that they are in real life, so I feel like it was a fair exchange. Max it's an upgrade of one or two pick slots in value for Spanky.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Kat preferred the pick so I made that swap. 2013 was a fairly weak draft and hitters are slightly more value that they are in real life, so I feel like it was a fair exchange. Max it's an upgrade of one or two pick slots in value for Spanky. Yeah I don't really get why the number 6 pick in a much deeper draft is worth less than Gray in everyone's opinion but that's fine. I mean sure he pitched well but he was 21 pitching in the low minors so it would have been more noteworthy if he hadn't pitched well. He does have a nice fastball, that's for sure. I think people are simply preferring the known quantity here. I'm putting a lot of pressure on myself to not blow the pick and I can see why many would prefer not to put themselves in that position but I'm fine with the deal for now. I'll trade the pick if I'm not fully committed to my choice at the time but it's way too early to think like that and right now that seems pretty unlikely with the class being as good as it is.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Cats Ass, you can't do any better for a 1/2 than Kershaw/Darvish. That is a beastly top pairing. Well... I wouldn't mind adding Jose Fernandez to those 2...
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Yeah I don't really get why the number 6 pick in a much deeper draft is worth less than Gray in everyone's opinion but that's fine. I mean sure he pitched well but he was 21 pitching in the low minors so it would have been more noteworthy if he hadn't pitched well. He does have a nice fastball, that's for sure. I think people are simply preferring the known quantity here. I'm putting a lot of pressure on myself to not blow the pick and I can see why many would prefer not to put themselves in that position but I'm fine with the deal for now. I'll trade the pick if I'm not fully committed to my choice at the time but it's way too early to think like that and right now that seems pretty unlikely with the class being as good as it is. People do overvalue prospects because, as you say, they're a known quantity. You can picture Jonathan Gray coming up and being a force. By trading him, you allow for the possibility of regret in the future. It's hard to regret moving a pick because there's no defined scenario for it to set in. There's no emotional response to picks because they're an abstract concept.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Yeah I don't really get why the number 6 pick in a much deeper draft is worth less than Gray in everyone's opinion but that's fine. I mean sure he pitched well but he was 21 pitching in the low minors so it would have been more noteworthy if he hadn't pitched well. He does have a nice fastball, that's for sure. I think people are simply preferring the known quantity here. I'm putting a lot of pressure on myself to not blow the pick and I can see why many would prefer not to put themselves in that position but I'm fine with the deal for now. I'll trade the pick if I'm not fully committed to my choice at the time but it's way too early to think like that and right now that seems pretty unlikely with the class being as good as it is. Ya, I guess it is a pretty even swap. The players are going to end up very similar, Gray is just closer to the majors. North gave up the most in this deal, Half the assests involved came from his team.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 To BALCO PHARM TEAM: Prince Fielder (JK), Anthony Rizzo (TWP), Danny Duffy (JK), Burch Smith (TWP) To JURASSIC KATS: Maikel Franco (BPT), David Holmberg (BPT), MiLB #6 (TO), MiLB #113 (BPT) To THE WAR PUIGS: Yu Darvish (BPT), Kyle Gibson (BPT), Sean Nolin (BPT), MiLB #93 (BPT) To GRYFFINDOR: Jorge Soler (TWP) To TAIJUAN ON!: Jonathan Gray (GRY)
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Probably a Matt Wieters type bat.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Yea I was confused how exactly he got Gray for just the 6th pick. Then I realized I got what I wanted out of Gray and stopped caring. Good swap for him Prospect status probably better than his real value...in the end he's a flyball pitcher that's going to end up pitching in Colorado. 2014 draft is one of my favourite in years (for pitchers)...especially if Touki gives a reasonable price tag. Rodon's the best I've seen since Strasburg. Beede and Cederoth would have been top 10 in this years draft and can move up to elite if they show any control improvement. Burdi could have a top ten fastball in the majors right now...but how early can you take a reliever?
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Prospect status probably better than his real value...in the end he's a flyball pitcher that's going to end up pitching in Colorado. 2014 draft is one of my favourite in years (for pitchers)...especially if Touki gives a reasonable price tag. Rodon's the best I've seen since Strasburg. Beede and Cederoth would have been top 10 in this years draft and can move up to elite if they show any control improvement. Burdi could have a top ten fastball in the majors right now...but how early can you take a reliever? Well thats one reason I was more open to moving him rather than Martinez, but he's also a hard thrower who's going to miss a ton of bats. The ball cant carry if it aint being hit.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I'm thinking about making a thread in 'Rosters' that shows all owned players on one page, with their owner, and sorted by position. It's tedious to go to Yahoo, search the player, find the team, go back to PB, and look at that team's Block, and with player movement Yahoo is becoming inaccurate. I would update this thread myself with each trade. Alright, it's up! http://darrelldynasty.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=tradeblock&thread=97&page=1
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Looks good. Should be pretty helpful when looking for certain players.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Alright, it's up! http://darrelldynasty.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=tradeblock&thread=97&page=1 Thanks
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 And second blockbuster deal in 24 hours. I like the deal for both sides. Risks for both sides. If I had to pick one side I like more I'd pick Boxy's side of the deal. He got a young pitcher who could be an ace for many years along with a high draft pick that could be another special player, those are going to help him in his rebuild. BTS got one of the best hitters in the game but he is also 30 years old, good deal for a win now team.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Love that deal for BTS. Braun will come back and be Braun IMO. Harvey won't touch the field again until 2015. Honestly I thought Harvey's value would be much closer to a top 100 or so bat. Boxy should have offered Braun around better, I don't have any young talent but I would have made a move for Braun.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Alright, it's up! http://darrelldynasty.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=tradeblock&thread=97&page=1 That's awesome man that does make thinks a lot easier.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Alright, it's up! http://darrelldynasty.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=tradeblock&thread=97&page=1 IS there a way to give access to everyone so they can update it themselves and highlight players that are on the trading block?
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 IS there a way to give access to everyone so they can update it themselves and highlight players that are on the trading block? I don't believe so. Although mods are able to edit it. I'll continually edit when people update their trade blocks. And people always make new posts, so it's evident when a block has been edited. I also may go through later and highlight players who are backups on their team (i.e., guys who may be available, but are not on the block).
TheHurl Site Manager Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Posted my trade block. I can warn you that I won't be quick to reply these days. I'll re-post here and underline those That I NOT looking to move. POS H/AB Runs Hits HR RBI SB OBP Sluggin Carlos Santana C/1B 145/541 75 145 20 74 3 0.377 0.455 Kendrys Morales 1B 167/602 64 167 23 80 0 0.336 0.449 Kyle Seager 3B 160/615 79 160 22 69 9 0.338 0.426 Evan Longoria 3B 165/614 91 165 32 88 1 0.343 0.498 Jean Segura SS 173/588 74 173 12 49 44 0.329 0.423 B.J. Upton OF/CF 72/391 30 72 9 26 12 0.268 0.289 Junior Lake OF/CF 67/236 26 67 6 16 4 0.332 0.428 Michael Saunders OF/CF 96/406 59 96 12 46 13 0.323 0.397 Omar Infante 2B 144/453 54 144 10 51 5 0.345 0.45 Dexter Fowler OF/CF 109/415 71 109 12 42 19 0.369 0.407 Devin Mesoraco C 77/323 31 77 9 42 0 0.287 0.362 Jimmy Rollins SS 151/600 65 151 6 39 22 0.318 0.348 Albert Pujols 1B 101/391 49 101 17 64 1 0.33 0.437 Kevin Youkilis 1B/3B 23/105 12 23 2 8 0 0.305 0.343 IP W Saves K Holds ERA K/BB OBPA Josh Collmenter RP 92 5 0 85 5 3.13 2.58 0.297 Adam Wainwright SP 241.2 19 0 219 0 2.94 6.26 0.276 Alex Wood RP/SP 77.2 3 0 77 1 3.13 2.85 0.318 Nathan Eovaldi SP 106.1 4 0 78 0 3.39 1.95 0.313 Wade Miley SP 202.2 10 0 147 0 3.55 2.23 0.32 Rafael Soriano RP 66.2 3 43 51 0 3.11 3 0.296 Seth Maness RP 62 5 1 35 15 2.32 2.69 0.317 Drew Storen RP 61.2 4 3 58 24 4.52 3.05 0.318 LaTroy Hawkins RP 70.2 3 13 55 12 2.93 5.5 0.285 Jake McGee RP 62.2 5 1 75 28 4.02 3.41 0.288 Kyle Lohse SP 198.2 11 0 125 0 3.35 3.47 0.292 Cody Allen RP 70.1 6 2 88 11 2.43 3.38 0.296 Tommy Milone SP 156.1 12 0 126 0 4.14 3.23 0.301 I have to get down from 27 to 20 and have 22 guys that I feel like I should keep or really like. Already two people interested in Pujols, I'll be moving him most likely but I see the Steamer projections...be prepared to pay for those kinds of numbers or somewhere in between his 2013 and those
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Anybody want Jason Motte for a draft pick or prospect? He was an elite closer until TJS and should be healthy to start the year, and he could be in line for saves again with Mujica a FA. I'll take pretty much anything for him. Low risk, high reward type for a team with an open roster spot and a pick they're not going to use anyway.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Also, a fun fact: Burch Smith's Steamer projection isn't far off Darvish's. 208 IP, 217 K, 3.29 ERA vs. 192 IP, 230 K, 3.03 ERA. I may already have Darvish's replacement! Steamer has Hyun-Jin Ryu pitching 269 IP next year. Who wants in on the next legendary workhorse? Anybody looking for a Korean ace?
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Steamer has Hyun-Jin Ryu pitching 269 IP next year. Who wants in on the next legendary workhorse? Anybody looking for a Korean ace? They have Scherzer and Verlander down for 480 IP. Now I know why Spanky isn't willing to even listen on the latter. I believe it's because Fangraphs scales the projection to their own playing time projections, and they haven't gotten around to those for playoff teams. A lot of guys are off. But Burch Smith's projection is 100% legit.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 They have Scherzer and Verlander down for 480 IP. Now I know why Spanky isn't willing to even listen on the latter. I believe it's because Fangraphs scales the projection to their own playing time projections, and they haven't gotten around to those for playoff teams. A lot of guys are off. But Burch Smith's projection is 100% legit. 82 Games with 27 Starts. Is he going to hold a spot in the rotation and the bullpen?
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I can't believe I actually traded Buxton. Then again, I couldn't believe some of the trade offers I said no to. Almost half the teams in the league offered me mid-prime all-stars in one-for-one offers at some point this season.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I can't believe I actually traded Buxton. Then again, I couldn't believe some of the trade offers I said no to. Almost half the teams in the league offered me mid-prime all-stars in one-for-one offers at some point this season. He's overrated anyway. Save that one for when I look stupid in a couple of years.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Every scout in baseball can't be wrong. Except about Delmon Young.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Buxton = Young You did good selling high on him.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I think the scouts are right this time, though. Buxton is a stallion.
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Who for? To Oppo Taco: Byron Buxton Kyle Crick Mike Morse MiLB #59 Tanner Scheppers To A Wrench In The Plan: Chris Sale Freddie Freeman MiLB #69 MiLB #74 MiLB #114
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 All these trades being completed is going to force me into a panic move.
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