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Posted
I hadn't considered that. Deal is now off the table. Sorry min, that's what you get for being yella.

 

At least I'm not the flake now.

Posted
FWW I think this is a good non-deal for min. Sure, Correa would be nice this year, but Stanton is going to put up epic slash lines for years and years to come.
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Posted
FWW I think this is a good non-deal for min. Sure, Correa would be nice this year, but Stanton is going to put up epic slash lines for years and years to come.

 

Yeah, for like 90 games each season.

Posted
FWW I think this is a good non-deal for min. Sure, Correa would be nice this year, but Stanton is going to put up epic slash lines for years and years to come.

 

lol at the airtime this whole thing has gotten. It was never even close to being a thing.

 

The MLB equivalent of this conversation is discussing if the Jays not signing Darvish was a mistake.

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lol at the airtime this whole thing has gotten. It was never even close to being a thing.

 

The MLB equivalent of this conversation is discussing if the Jays not signing Darvish was a mistake.

 

I dunno, this was pretty close. You offered it, Boxy accepted, and then you tucked your dick in and ran away.

 

I guess you could say that this was... about 6 inches from happening?

Posted
I dunno, this was pretty close. You offered it, Boxy accepted, and then you tucked your dick in and ran away.

 

I guess you could say that this was... about 6 inches from happening?

 

3.5*

Posted

I just want to say I am officially putting Joe Ross on the block. I have two very strong offers for him that are reasonably close to closing.

 

Ideally, I'd like him to be a part of a package that lands be an impact bat.

 

Please send me offers if you are interested ASAP.

Posted
Would have been a pretty good trade for both teams. Boxy would have committed himself to Crawford something he seems more comfortable doing than anyone else and RealMin would have gotten the better player.
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Posted
I just want to say I am officially putting Joe Ross on the block. I have two very strong offers for him that are reasonably close to closing.

 

Ideally, I'd like him to be a part of a package that lands be an impact bat.

 

Please send me offers if you are interested ASAP.

 

Ross for Correa seems fair.

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Posted

His MiLB peripherals were very mediocre though, for a prospect. I don't know if 39 MLB innings is enough for me to move my needle on him. Projections think that he's a league average starter, but with a K/9 that starts with a 6, rather than a 9.

 

IMO his value isn't substantially different from that of, say, Nate Karns.

Posted
Joe Ross's peripherals are out of this world.

 

Nothing better than a good old fashion North prospect hype for your assets value.

 

His MiLB peripherals were very mediocre though, for a prospect. I don't know if 39 MLB innings is enough for me to move my needle on him. Projections think that he's a league average starter, but with a K/9 that starts with a 6, rather than a 9.

 

....can you please not. You wet blanket.

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Posted
Luis Severino looks pretty filthy. FeatherD should probably call him up to help cement his playoff position.
Posted
I someone going to move an impact bat to gamble on Ross though? I can't see it.

 

In short, yes.

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Posted
In short, yes.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing the return, because I'm not really understanding the hype just yet. Mediocre minor league career with no real prospect hype. I think Kiley McDaniel called him a back end starter in the bigs in the preseason, and I'm not sure anyone was higher on him than that. Then 39 innings later he's returning an impact major league bat? I mean, the numbers are great, but 39 innings. Would be pretty unprecedented for people to buy in this early when it comes to making a legit trade for him.

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This is how elite starting pitchers happen these days though... last preseason, nobody was saying that Keuchel, deGrom, Arrieta, McHugh, etc. were going to be front end starters in the bigs and here we are. Pitch-level stats stabilize very quickly.

 

Joe Ross did have some prospect hype too, and he does throw mid-90s with three legit pitches and decent command. He might be really good.

 

I get that he MIGHT be good, and I can certainly see wanting to get in now, but 'impact bat' sounds like what you'd give for the finished product after a lot more innings of certainty.

Posted
This is how elite starting pitchers happen these days though... last preseason, nobody was saying that Keuchel, deGrom, Arrieta, McHugh, etc. were going to be front end starters in the bigs and here we are. Pitch-level stats stabilize very quickly.

 

Joe Ross did have some prospect hype too, and he does throw mid-90s with three legit pitches and decent command. He might be really good.

 

Don't forget Sonny Gray.

Posted
Joe Ross is so boring compared to Stanton and Correa. Can we get back to talking about those guys and perhaps someone double dare Min to make the swap?
Posted
Luis Severino looks pretty filthy. FeatherD should probably call him up to help cement his playoff position.

 

Meh possibly. I hate the idea of burning a keeper spot on him when I can just wait and call him up next year -- but he might force my hand.

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Meh possibly. I hate the idea of burning a keeper spot on him when I can just wait and call him up next year -- but he might force my hand.

 

This would make sense if you already had 20 keeper quality players, but you don't.

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For Boxy:

 

Jacob Nottingham

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[TD]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/images/headshot_102700.jpg[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD=colspan: 2]Born: 04/03/1995 (Age: 20)[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]Bats: Right[/TD]

[TD]Throws: Right[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]Height: 6' 3"[/TD]

[TD]Weight: 230[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD=colspan: 2]Primary Position: C[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD=colspan: 2]Secondary Position:[/TD]

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[/TABLE]

[TABLE=class: mechanics, width: 62%]

[TR=class: header]

[TD]Physical/Health[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Impressive physique, football history evident; strong kid, well-proportioned and filled-out; above-average athleticism, movements can get measured and slow down.[/TD]

[/TR]

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[TD=class: header]Evaluator[/TD]

[TD]Wilson Karaman[/TD]

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[TD=class: header]Report Date[/TD]

[TD]07/30/2015[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD=class: header]Dates Seen[/TD]

[TD]6 games, July 2015[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD=class: header]Affiliate[/TD]

[TD]Stockton Ports (High A, Athletics)[/TD]

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[TD]MLB ETA[/TD]

[TD]Risk Factor[/TD]

[TD]OFP[/TD]

[TD]Realistic Role[/TD]

[TD]Video[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]2017[/TD]

[TD]Moderate[/TD]

[TD]60[/TD]

[TD]55/Bat-first starting catcher[/TD]

[TD]Yes[/TD]

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[TABLE=class: overall, width: 100%]

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[TD]Makeup[/TD]

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[TD]Hard-worker, engages his pitchers well; some immaturity, will take bad calls at the plate with him into the next pitch and give away at-bats; extremely competitive, curses loudly when he misses his pitch.

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[TD]Tool[/TD]

[TD=class: mid1]Future Grade[/TD]

[TD]Report[/TD]

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[TD]Hit[/TD]

[TD=class: mid]50[/TD]

[TD]Wide start-up, slight crouch, hands deep off back shoulder; minimal load, mild bat wrap; quiet hands and top half; long stride with aggressive weight transfer; generates well above-average torque and extreme separation, above-average bat speed with leverage; hands stay back, front elbow stays up, keeps inside the ball with predominantly opposite-field approach; plus track with above-average command of the zone, lets the ball travel well; aggressive in-zone, wants to extend, can be beaten by in-out sequencing, inner-third swing-and-miss.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Power[/TD]

[TD=class: mid]60[/TD]

[TD]60+ raw to all fields; generates top spin with more linear in-game swing to pull side and up the middle; looks to separate and lift in fastball counts; approach to drive it oppo in games with leverage and strength to take balls out to right; ball carries to right-center.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Baserunning/Speed[/TD]

[TD=class: mid]40[/TD]

[TD]averaged 4.38 from the right side, long finish; fringe-average first gear, likely to play down as he ages and settles into frame.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Glove[/TD]

[TD=class: mid]50[/TD]

[TD]Wide, low crouch behind the plate, strong lateral agility; inconsistent blocking technique, frequently gets down on just the left knee leaving right side exposed; struggles to get glove down across his body to arm side; average hands and framing, loose receiving in-zone, will bring pitches out of the zone; calls a good game, executes game plan with minimal shakes.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Arm[/TD]

[TD=class: mid]55[/TD]

[TD]Plus raw arm strength, long release limits utility; 1.98 pop, accurate arm with average tailing action.[/TD]

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[TABLE=class: overall, width: 100%]

[TR=class: header]

[TD]Overall[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Nottingham boasts an impressive blend of physicality and acumen, with an athletic, strong frame and realized skills that have taken a significant step forward this year. On offense he features a leveraged swing with strong bat-to-ball skills and the raw strength and approach to take balls out of the yard to the opposite field. While there's some swing-and-miss in his game he shows strong contact skills and the ability to bring a good majority of his power into games.

 

The bat will play, and while it still requires ample projection the raw ingredients of an average-or-better defender behind the plate are present. His athleticism is apparent in his lateral movement, and his receiving has taken a step forward this year. The total package of a bat-first profile with average defensive chops can play to a Role 6 ceiling if it all comes together, and there's plenty here to suggest an above-average backstop when all is said and done.

[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

Posted
What is Nottingham's nickname again? He's been fantastic in his first 17 games with Stockton: 161 wRC+.

 

The Sheriff.

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Posted
Ryan Borucki was in today's BP eyewitness reports and he got some nice grades. 50/55/55 potential arsenal.
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Posted
Ryan Borucki was in today's BP eyewitness reports and he got some nice grades. 50/55/55 potential arsenal.

 

Posted it in the LOD thread

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