BTS Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 That Archer trade hurts, but post-2013 Archer was on par with what, like current Jake Odorizzi? Big props to Dinger for seeing the impending breakout, but I don't beat myself up for missing it. That Walker trade was straight garbage though.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 That Archer trade hurts, but post-2013 Archer was on par with what, like current Jake Odorizzi? Big props to Dinger for seeing the impending breakout, but I don't beat myself up for missing it. That Walker trade was straight garbage though. I squandered Archer anyway, ended up trading him to upgrade Choo to Bautista. At least he went to a decent guy like Spanky who won't rub it in my face.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Everytime we rehash the Pollock for Appel debacle I end up with the biggest s*** eating grin on my face. My work colleagues always ask me what's up. Can we rehash Holliday and Kuroda for Correa and a second rounder? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Correa is god. I don't think it's any exagerration to call him a Top 10 dynasty asset already.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Maybe even Top 5, actually. The only guys I'd definitely pop before him if we drafted today are Trout and Harper. There's a very reasonable dynasty argument to take him ahead of Stanton, Goldy, Rizzo, Cutch, and Kershaw.
TRM Verified Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Can we rehash Holliday and Kuroda for Correa and a second rounder? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Let's, I'm glad the trade worked out for both of us. Kuroda was a horse for me for that season, and Holliday helped my bats be the best in the league. I nearly won a title with that trade, it was good process. Not really much I can complain about.
Laika Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 Let's, I'm glad the trade worked out for both of us. Kuroda was a horse for me for that season, and Holliday helped my bats be the best in the league. I nearly won a title with that trade, it was good process. Not really much I can complain about. How about trading away a generational talent and then not winning the league? That seems complainable.
TRM Verified Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 How about trading away a generational talent and then not winning the league? That seems complainable. plz f*** off
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Maybe even Top 5, actually. The only guys I'd definitely pop before him if we drafted today are Trout and Harper. There's a very reasonable dynasty argument to take him ahead of Stanton, Goldy, Rizzo, Cutch, and Kershaw. zero percent chance I take Correa over Stanton.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 zero percent chance I take Correa over Stanton. I'm not saying I would either, but there's an argument. Having a potential .400 wOBA SS for the best decade of his career is extremely appealing in a dynasty format. The difference between him and the average shortstop is probably going to be a lot bigger than the difference between Stanton and the average OF.
TRM Verified Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 zero percent chance I take Correa over Stanton. I'll trade you Stanton for Correa
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Correa is what Bogaerts was supposed to be
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 I'll trade you Stanton for Correa Wow
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Boxy, perhaps you have some ownership fatigue. Please do not trade Correa under any circumstances.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Boxy, perhaps you have some ownership fatigue. Please do not trade Correa under any circumstances. You don't tell me what to do!
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 I'll trade you Stanton for Correa rly?
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 rly? http://files.gamebanana.com/img/ico/sprays/itsatrap.jpg
Laika Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 LOL some of those are truly dreadful BTS is pretty weak in the trade department. He publicly shops players forever, or shops for specific kinds of held for extended periods of time, before finally begrudgingly accepting a trade. He needs to be decisive and quiet, like me. I don't think I've lost a trade in this league!
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 25 year old injury-prone, career .386 wOBA OF for a 20 year old career .386 wOBA SS. Makes sense.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 FWIW (not much) I like the Stanton end. He's only 25 and I'm not buying Correa as a 130+ wRC+ guy yet.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 BTS is pretty weak in the trade department. He publicly shops players forever, or shops for specific kinds of held for extended periods of time, before finally begrudgingly accepting a trade. He needs to be decisive and quiet, like me. I don't think I've lost a trade in this league! You lost the Cano trade and continue to do so.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 FWIW (not much) I like the Stanton end. He's only 25 and I'm not buying Correa as a 130+ wRC+ guy yet. I'm just farting around, really, obviously we all love Stanton. For Boxy's roster, that trade makes absolutely no sense, however.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 BTS is pretty weak in the trade department. He publicly shops players forever, or shops for specific kinds of held for extended periods of time, before finally begrudgingly accepting a trade. He needs to be decisive and quiet, like me. I don't think I've lost a trade in this league! You've just cut right to my core. This is very accurate.
Laika Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 You lost the Cano trade and continue to do so. lol, good one.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 lol, good one. I'm not joking in the slightest. Since that trade: Cano: .294/.353/.437, .341 wOBA Davis: .218/.312/.452, .330 wOBA Plus, crucially, Cano is a 2B. You can have your moment-in-time fapfest for Davis' hot month, but the truth is Cano has hit very well lately also, and gave me a .361 wOBA last year.
Laika Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 I'm not joking in the slightest. Since that trade: Cano: .294/.353/.437, .341 wOBA Davis: .218/.312/.452, .330 wOBA Plus, crucially, Cano is a 2B. You can have your moment-in-time fapfest for Davis' hot month, but the truth is Cano has hit very well lately also, and gave me a .361 wOBA last year. Obviously in 2014 you won, but future outlook isn't very close.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 I disagree, and I think you're giving too much weight to Cano's slow start, much as you did last year.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 I do have super stud Brandon Crawford entrenched at SS whom no one is interested in trading for. Makes sense.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 The trade has no winner yet. Either guy could fall off a cliff next year and it wouldn't be surprising at all.
Laika Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 It's not just a slow start. Through 440 PA this year his PD stats are much worse than his career. He's played league a league average 2B through a pretty large sample size.
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