NHL Thread

[Frag]

Defense really don't matter unless they are just a forward in disguise (Karlsson/Giordano/Burns).

 

There is some level of skill from defencemen, but a lot of it is dependant on the coaching/system.

[Cyborg]

I've read that Gardiner and Marincin had decent to good numbers.

I have them both just below replacement last year. Gardiner was great in 2013 and good in 2014 though.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

Cyborg is playing with you guys or drunk

[Frag]

Also, with Las Vegas getting a team soon, there is always the issue of the expansion draft.

[JG34]

Also, with Las Vegas getting a team soon, there is always the issue of the expansion draft.

 

It's the best way to trade for a goalie!

[GD]

Cyborg is playing with you guys or drunk

 

As shown by relative WTPDL performances or?

[Frag]

It's the best way to trade for a goalie!

 

Could be a good time to snatch one of Anaheim's goalies.

[Cyborg]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xKtPSEkw0nMMF-uXAsXHIz-cUKjxv8OYyiVJYOUbifU/edit?usp=sharing

 

Here is what I just ran. Trouba actually had more GAR than Kadri last year lol, but due to bad shooting luck for Kadri I think.

[Slot Machine]

Stamkos is below average possession player. Almost all value comes from shooting.

 

 

What's your grade on Ovechkin then? Out of curiosity.

[Cyborg]

What's your grade on Ovechkin then? Out of curiosity.

Best player in the league.

[Jimcanuck]

1. Babs loves Reilly

 

2. On a good team Kadri's puck possession numbers go down

 

Cyborg trying to appear knowledgeable

[King]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xKtPSEkw0nMMF-uXAsXHIz-cUKjxv8OYyiVJYOUbifU/edit?usp=sharing

 

Here is what I just ran. Trouba actually had more GAR than Kadri last year lol, but due to bad shooting luck for Kadri I think.

 

Reilly damn. 2nd worst GAR in the league.

[King]

Could be a good time to snatch one of Anaheim's goalies.

 

Gibson is signed on the cheap for the next 3 seasons I think Andersen is the one that is traded. If the Leafs can get him for a reasonable price then you take it run IMO.

 

 

 

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/frederik-andersen-on-his-goaltending-future---i-want-to-play-a-lot-212535022.html

 

ANAHEIM, Calif. – Frederik Andersen knows he’s an NHL level No. 1 goaltender. Not only has he proven himself as an everyday starter during the regular season, in the playoffs he’s taken the Anaheim Ducks to Game 7 of the Western Conference Final.

 

“Of course, you want to play. That's the bottom line. You want to be in net. When you know you can play, you want to be in net,” Andersen said.

 

For most teams re-signing him as a restricted free agent in the offseason would be a no-brainer. But the Ducks have a bit of a different situation with their goaltenders. John Gibson was re-signed last September for the manageable salary cap hit number of $2.3 million per-season over the next three years.

 

The 22-year-old Gibson made the NHL All-Star team this past year and had a 2.07 goal-against average and .920 save percentage in 40 games as Andersen, who came into the season as the Ducks' No. 1, dealt with a few different health problems. Andersen finished the year with a 22-9-7 record, a 2.30 goal-against average and .919 save percentage.

 

Gibson started the first two games of the playoffs, losing both before relinquishing the net to Andersen.

 

The 26-year-old Andersen’s two-year $2.3 million contract is set to expire on July 1. While he’s arguably the Ducks’ most experienced goaltending option, he’s also Anaheim’s most valuable trade chip this offseason.

 

The Ducks don’t need two starting goaltenders and could plug another roster hole by trading a netminder. Andersen will likely command a greater per-year salary than Gibson in his next deal.

 

“I think when the time comes some decision will be made,” Andersen said. “I like playing here. I know all the guys love having me in the net. I like it here, so obviously would love to play.”

 

Speaking with reporters at Ducks getaway day, Andersen sounded like a person who didn’t want to leave Anaheim. The Ducks picked him in the third-round of the 2012 NHL Draft and worked with him to help him become a solid NHL netminder. His status won’t change how he prepares for next season if he’s in Anaheim or somewhere else.

 

“I've got to talk to my trainers, plan my summer and take it from there,” Andersen said. “It doesn't matter where I'll play. It doesn't matter how I prepare. I have to make sure I prepare the right way and prepare for next year.”

 

Andersen didn’t sound 100 percent comfortable when asked about sharing the net next season with Gibson again.

 

“It's possible. Never write anything off. Who knows? It's too early to tell,” he said. “I don't know if it'll happen. We'll see. I want to play a lot.”

 

General manager Bob Murray understands that both Andersen and Gibson may not want play on the same team next year simply because they both want the majority of ice-time.

 

“I mean, they’re No. 1 goalies. Any good No. 1 goalie I’ve known in my life wants the bloody net,” Murray said. “So, do they want that? That’s an issue. But, they’re a pretty good team. It would be nice, but we’ll see."

 

Expansion could also play a role in Murray’s goaltending decision. If teams are only allowed to protect one goaltender, he’ll have to trade one to not lose him for nothing. Expansion could happen as soon as 2017-18.

 

“We have two very good young goaltenders, and again, you have to remember when you’re talking about this - expansion draft… if we have expansion,” Murray noted.

 

Even though the decision is tough, it’s a choice a lot of general managers would like to have. But it has to be right for the team and the goaltender. And it sounds that the Ducks embarrassment of goaltending riches has hit a tipping point.

[King]

Pavelec's available, Leafs!

[Hal Johnson]

Does Frederik Gauthier have a future as a checking line centre on the Leafs? Everything I've read about him says that he's pretty limited offensively, but somewhat of a defensive wiz.

[Jimcanuck]

Does Frederik Gauthier have a future as a checking line centre on the Leafs? Everything I've read about him says that he's pretty limited offensively, but somewhat of a defensive wiz.

 

Yes, but he has not been an NHL calibre skater, but is improving. Working with the Leafs skating coach, Barb Underhill. But he definitely has the size and strength to be a guy in the mold of Joel Otto, not that good tho!

 

He will get a good look at camp.... if Kadri is moved as I expect, Holland and Gauthier may battle it out for 4th line centre.

[Hal Johnson]

Yes, but he has not been an NHL calibre skater, but is improving. Working with the Leafs skating coach, Barb Underhill. But he definitely has the size and strength to be a guy in the mold of Joel Otto, not that good tho!

 

He will get a good look at camp.... if Kadri is moved as I expect, Holland and Gauthier may battle it out for 4th line centre.

 

Deal Kadri? Didn't they just give him a 6 year deal?

[Jimcanuck]

Deal Kadri? Didn't they just give him a 6 year deal?

 

yes, but if they hold on to the No 1 pick and draft matthews, and sign stamkos, i cant see them paying Kadri and Bozak that much for 3rd and 4th liner minutes

[Hal Johnson]

yes, but if they hold on to the No 1 pick and draft matthews, and sign stamkos, i cant see them paying Kadri and Bozak that much for 3rd and 4th liner minutes

 

Right. So, is trading Bozak in that scenario not also possible?

[JG34]

Sign Stamkos, move him to wing, start season with Kadri at 1C, Nylander 2C, Matthews 3C, Gauthier or Holland as 4C.

[Jimcanuck]

Right. So, is trading Bozak in that scenario not also possible?

 

Bozak doesnt have much value.... Kadri returns the young top 4 d-man the leafs need

[Jimcanuck]

Sign Stamkos, move him to wing, start season with Kadri at 1C, Nylander 2C, Matthews 3C, Gauthier or Holland as 4C.

 

Possible, except moving Kadri now, playing Stammer at centre, then moving Stammer to the wing the following year when Marner is ready makes more sense

[Hal Johnson]

Bozak doesnt have much value.... Kadri returns the young top 4 d-man the leafs need

 

You could be right. I guess we will see. Either way, I'm enjoying this proper rebuild. It's kind of fun!

[JG34]

Possible, except moving Kadri now, playing Stammer at centre, then moving Stammer to the wing the following year when Marner is ready makes more sense

 

I don't think Marner is being developed as a centre anymore. Pretty sure he was winger most of the year in London. Marner is probably on the team next year as he's outgrown the OHL imo.

[Jimcanuck]

I don't think Marner is being developed as a centre anymore. Pretty sure he was winger most of the year in London. Marner is probably on the team next year as he's outgrown the OHL imo.

 

Maybe... might be with the Leafs early, then returned to the Knights just before the world juniors. Marner better as a playmaking centre IMO, akin to Lafontaine

[Krylian]

For those hockey junkies out there, how good could Matthews be? Which player currently in the NHL can you compare him to?

 

Crawford said he's a mix of Kopitar, Sakic, and Benn.

[havok24]

Nikita Zaitsev has officially signed a contract with the Leafs. Edited May 2, 2016 by havok24

[Krylian]

Nikita Zaitsev has officially signed a contract with the Leafs.

 

No one saw this coming.

[Hal Johnson]

Someone help me out here. I haven't followed hockey closely in a while. After this draft lottery the other day, my interest has piqued. I was just checking out the scoring leaders from this season. I was looking at Jamie Benn, and his excellent numbers that he's had pretty much the entire time he's been in the NHL, and I noticed that he was drafted in the 5th round. How the hell does a player like this go in the 5th round? Was he not highly touted in his draft year? I mean, his first year in the NHL, he scored 41 points in 82 games. Anyway, just wondering what the story is behind that.

[Spanky99]

Someone help me out here. I haven't followed hockey closely in a while. After this draft lottery the other day, my interest has piqued. I was just checking out the scoring leaders from this season. I was looking at Jamie Benn, and his excellent numbers that he's had pretty much the entire time he's been in the NHL, and I noticed that he was drafted in the 5th round. How the hell does a player like this go in the 5th round? Was he not highly touted in his draft year? I mean, his first year in the NHL, he scored 41 points in 82 games. Anyway, just wondering what the story is behind that.

 

Players slip through the cracks all the time whether it be his scouting review, size and development, skating, puck handling being behind the curve, etc, etc... happens often.

 

Found this for a decent read of what I had outlined... (it's a few years old)

 

http://stars.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=635104