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[Angrioter]

Jayson Stark says the Angels are signing Raul Ibanez... LOL

 

Ibanez + Santiago + Skaggs over Trumbo

 

Dipoto gained some ground.

[G-Snarls]

Morse and Astros

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

Sorry I keep posting so much stuff from CespedesFamilyBBQ. But damn that guy's quick.

[NorthOf49]

Sorry I keep posting so much stuff from CespedesFamilyBBQ. But damn that guy's quick.

Keep doing so! They're hilarious.

[NorthOf49]

LOL. So true.

[Angrioter]

JonHeymanCBS

#yankees turned down a brandon phillips for brett gardner offer.

[Chappy]

When do the winter meetings end? Tomorrow morning?

[Jays]

Brandon Phillips just isn't very likable at all.

 

That alone makes me think he'll be a Jay this offseason.

[Chappy]

Friday evening, I believe. 4 days and it started Tuesday.

 

Started Monday actually, Dec 9th. That's why I was thinking it ends tomorrow. Looked it up and it ends tomorrow the 12th. Usually a lot of the GM's take off early on the last day if I remember correctly, so it's starting to look like AA may come out without anything. Sigh....hopefully he at least has so something brewing.

[Dylan]

Hart won't sign for a part time job, there's no way.

 

Late to the show?

[Dylan]

Yes, was he signed?

 

Mariners, 1 year / 6 mil + many incentives

[P2F]

Yes, was he signed?

 

Earlier today. Seattle. 1 year.

[Jays]

Yes, was he signed?

 

Mariners, lol

[P2F]

Mariners, 1 year / 6 mil + many incentives

 

Up to 13 mil with said incentives.

[Dylan]

I see, Mariners.

Decent risk free signing. Expecting a Ackley/Franklin/Smoak sale to start soon

 

They also traded for morrison if you missed that

[John_Havok]

Decent risk free signing. Expecting a Ackley/Franklin/Smoak sale to start soon

 

They also traded for morrison if you missed that

 

Where's there's Smoak, there's a mini fire sale?

[Brenner]

Perception is an odd thing. Omar Infante is considered a deal at $8/mil a season yet Phillips is considered overpaid at 12.5 mil. So split the difference and I guess people would be happy with either at $10 mil/year? So are they equivalent players? I don't buy it, I think Phillips is better and if you compare the deal that Infante ends up with Phillips remaining years I think its an easy call. The only thing Infante has going for him is that he is a FA and doesn't require us giving up any assets and Phillips seems to be hell bent on getting more money.

[Chappy]

Perception is an odd thing. Omar Infante is considered a deal at $8/mil a season yet Phillips is considered overpaid at 12.5 mil. So split the difference and I guess people would be happy with either at $10 mil/year? So are they equivalent players? I don't buy it, I think Phillips is better and if you compare the deal that Infante ends up with Phillips remaining years I think its an easy call. The only thing Infante has going for him is that he is a FA and doesn't require us giving up any assets and Phillips seems to be hell bent on getting more money.

 

Phillips at 12.5 isn't a concern for me. I think he still has at least 2 more solid seasons in him and probably 2 more mediocre ones. It really comes down to what is required via trade and I'm thinking AA doesn't like what the Reds are asking for one bit. They asked the Yankees for Gardener, so it seems reasonable they would want Rasmus from the Jays and I wouldn't do that.

[John_Havok]

Perception is an odd thing. Omar Infante is considered a deal at $8/mil a season yet Phillips is considered overpaid at 12.5 mil. So split the difference and I guess people would be happy with either at $10 mil/year? So are they equivalent players? I don't buy it, I think Phillips is better and if you compare the deal that Infante ends up with Phillips remaining years I think its an easy call. The only thing Infante has going for him is that he is a FA and doesn't require us giving up any assets and Phillips seems to be hell bent on getting more money.

 

Somewhat valid, but you have to also consider that Phillips is a year older and his contract increases over the next four years. Both will be into their decline phases, and you likely won't have to guarantee 4 years to Infante( yes that's what he's asking for but I don't think he'll get it. Your other point about costing assets to get Phillips is also valid, why give up possibly multiple prospects when you can't get similar value for less money and no prospects?

[Chappy]

Infante should be AA's #1 priority right now. Makes this team better both offensively and defensively over Izzy.

[Dylan]

The Mariners have been ardent Cruz pursuers from the start of the winter, and one baseball source tells Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com they'll continue to be in the mix for him even after adding Robinson Cano, Corey Hart, and Logan Morrison

 

Oh man, if they signed him, they'd currently have a bench of Ackley, Franklin, Smoak, Almonte, Bloomqvist.. so much trading to be done.

 

1. Miller (ss) 2. Saunders (OF) 3. Cano (2B) 4. Cruz (OF) 5. Hart (OF) 6. Seager (3B) 7. Smoak/Montero (DH), 8. Morrison (1B) 9. Zunino ©

 

^that would be solid.

Edited December 12, 2013 by Dylan

[G-Snarls]

Jeez

 

[G-Snarls]

Decent risk free signing. Expecting a Ackley/Franklin/Smoak sale to start soon

 

They also traded for morrison if you missed that

 

[Angrioter]

 

Ackley + Montero for Santos + Pillar + s***

[Laika]

Ackley + Montero for Santos + Pillar + s***

 

Why the hell would you want Montero?

[Angrioter]

Why the hell would you want Montero?

 

Lind's platoon partner?

[Olerud363]

Lind's platoon partner?

 

Yes. .320 .373 .455 against lefties. Young. Upside.

[Angrioter]

Yes. .320 .373 .455 against lefties. Young. Upside.

 

Jesus Montero Vs L

.357 wOBA and 131 wRC+ but -------------------> .364 BABIP

[Laika]

There are probably many more efficient ways to get a mediocre, plodding, platoon DH.