Carlos Danger

Is he wrong though?

Agree, I believe we need a proactive vice reactive solution for this issue. Infested yet again today.

When can we get some bot filters or Admin approval for new accounts etc... This spam BS is getting overwhelming.. Same originator it appears. Thanks

I didn't say that Ross said they offered an extension. I said he made his slip that Chapman wasn't coming back in the context that the FO knew what they had already offered or discussed.

I agree with the above. Hence, I believe he realized he made a slip and back tracked. Atkins also said that in the context that they offered Chapman a $100M plus multi year deal and he rejected it, which would give the Jays a pretty good idea where their market vs Boras is /was already. The caveat as other have said is if Chapman accepts a pillow contract. Other than that, I don't think Chapman is back on a multi year deal, unless Team opt outs in year 2, which is the same essentially as a one year deal.

I think KK was the outlier and not apples and apples to Chapman, and it was a case of Ross being too honest in error. I am not the only one who thought a deeper meaning to it. Blue Jays GM Atkins says three key players won’t be back Colton Pankiw | Oct 7 2023, 10:37 am Nick Turchiaro-USA TODAY Sports It was expected that several of the Toronto Blue Jays free agents wouldn’t be returning, but few thought we would have answers on their futures this quickly. In what was an already heavily criticized season-ending press conference this morning, Blue Jays general manager Ross Atkins seemingly admitted that Matt Chapman, Brandon Belt, and Kevin Kiermaier will not be returning for the 2024 season. “The bulk of our team [is] essentially returning,” Atkins said. “We’ll miss Matt Chapman and Brandon Belt and Kevin Kiermaier. We’ll see opportunities to work to fill those holes from within and externally. The bulk of our pitching returning, minus Hyun-Jin Ryu. Maybe a couple of others, Alek Manoah coming back into the fold, though Hyun-Jin Ryu could also be an alternative for us.” Atkins did later on clarify that the Jays are open to bringing back all three, but many are taking this as an accidental slip-up on what the plans are moving forward. Based on this press conference, it feels highly unlikely that any of the three will be back. The same could apply for Ryu, who Atkins also seemed to suggest would not return before backtracking seconds later. Chapman will likely command a salary too big to match for the Jays on the open market, while Belt has been honest about the fact he may choose to retire. As for Kiermaier, he recently expressed his desire to play on grass rather than artificial turf, which made his return seem less than likely. That said, none of the three ruled out a return, which makes today’s press conference all the more baffling. Tensions are quite high among Blue Jays fans after what was another disappointing playoff exit, and what was said today only seems to be adding to that. Safe to say, there will be a ton of pressure on everyone in the organization heading into the 2024 season.

Ha, new name is Vanilla Brownie!

I think it was the first press conference after the playoff loss. I think he said Chapman and Whit.. ICR. I took note because normally this FO was/is very, very calculating in every word they say, to the point of boring, especially Ross. Of course, it was shortly thereafter that Ross threw the manager under the bus... So.......

It wasn't what he said about the budget. He literally said - Para phrasing, we are losing Chapman as in not coming back. Now the market could have changed and Atkin/Shapiro could change their minds. However, I am pretty sure that comment was because the Jay's FO knew what they offered Chapman, they had an idea what Boras would want and they didn't see great results from Chapman to even contemplate a larger offer.

No. Atkins basically said it in the end of season press conference and by signing IKF.

Who is Serven?

Damn Dodgers are smart. Take on Margot to get Glasgow, then flip him to the Twins. The signing of Teoscar makes so much more sense now.

Maybe... Regardless, don't want 2nd half Chapman and need assurances that was an outlier due to injury... I would say that based on the fact he is currently a FA, other teams have the same concerns..

What was Chapman's 2nd half? Because unless something I/we are not aware of occurred the 2nd half... That is the Chapman I would be afraid we receive... I would wager a large part of that plus 9 was from first half stats.

Chapman sucked the 2nd half of last year and his D started going down hill also. How many more wins does Chapman give us then our current configuration? (Not that I am happy with the current configuration) What does Chapman really bring to the table for that amount of $$/term and exceeding the luxury tax threshold... *Assuming anything more than a 1 yr pillow contract.

I really hope that Espinal continuing to be with our starting player lineup is just to showcase him to move him, and not because he is in consideration as part of a 2b platoon...

Yankee’s media has been saying the past week that they are not done- Most likely referring to one of the FA SPs left on the market.

How did it become pitcher friendly in 2021 when it was the same structure and OF dimensions it had been for years... Maybe the roof was open a lot in the late summer when they returned or what was the variable?

2021 Vlad was probably that way in large part due to Dunedin, Buffalo and old hitters park Rogers Center.

Espinal you will see the same s*** regular season. Send the dude packing please. The Cardinals are looking for SS depth.

The uniforms look like s*** with the white faced hat, baby blue bill, dark blue body then a big green TD square that doesn’t match the blue… There were years I would have paid big $ to get my hands on the spring training hat.

And then has a career ending injury at 31 a la Prince Fielder... On a similar note... The Giants invited The Panda to camp on a MILB deal. The headline of one of the local SF baseball/news pages reads. Best shape of his life, looking good Panda! It's spring time... All is great...

Concur, trade for as much as you can get his final year..

Deja vu... I remember this from 2-3 years ago when we saw Vlad moving tractor tires as part of his Core strength CrossFit WOD or whatever.. The the Team goes on the road, club house buffets, stop by for Abuela's cooking in LA and same old same old by June.

This year they were all just given Ozempic Only/half joking...