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  1. 6 vs CWS, 4 vs DET, 3 vs PIT. The Jays have to pull off something like 10-3 in this stretch, or 9-4 at worst (which would put them at .500 before their series with BAL). The Tigers are decent now and the Pirates games could involve Skenes/Jones, so I wouldn’t count on it, but they need some type of run to make up ground. Luckily the Wild Card field looks weaker than normal with the Astros having a down year and the Rays looking human due to injuries but still going to be a massive uphill battle.
  2. Manoah has looked good so far.
  3. They’ll get Cole and Dominguez back soon as well. That team looks dangerous.
  4. Hoskins has a 132 wRC+ and 9 home runs as well. It’s crazy that in a weak FA market, the only position that had actual options was DH, and the Jays ended up going with a 40 year old on the decline.
  5. Add Yariel Rodriguez to that group (0.1 WAR), and Otto Lopez has a higher WAR than the Jays entire off season right now. Sadly we can’t even say “if the Jays kept him” because you know damn well he wouldn’t have 3 home runs in May if he was still in this org. I think the off season moves are playing out as expected. Green getting hurt obviously sucks but he’s a RP so volatility in any form kinda comes with the territory. Not surprised with any of the other results. The position player adds in the off season were gross.
  6. Shapiro’s contract ends after 2025 and Atkins after 2026. They have no in incentive to rebuild, and they won’t. At most they will trade the impending free agents, slither under the luxury tax to reset the penalties, and try again in 2025. I don’t see any realistic scenario where they trade anyone controlled through 2025 unless it’s someone insignificant. Maybe Atkins surprises us and gets a haul for Kikuchi and Garcia, but I have a feeling that Chris Black guy on Twitter will be working overtime trying to gas up the slapdick prospects the Jays get back at the deadline.
  7. Haven't seen this much s***ing on the team (by the mainstream media and now Keegan) in a while, changes are coming Not sure why he starts with “I don’t understand why” when a month ago he got the explanation.
  8. It’s incredible how similar this season (and the off season leading up to it) has been to 2017. They’ll even repeat the biggest mistake they made in 2017 which was not starting the rebuild at the deadline. I’m legit terrified of what the Jays get back for Kikuchi, Jansen, Garcia, etc.
  9. Justin Turner now with a 97 wRC+ in 150 PA, and that’s with a 187 wRC+ against LHP. A well run team probably runs him in a platoon with Horowitz, but he’s playing everyday until he’s traded at the deadline most likely.
  10. If there was nothing Atkins could do to fix the offense, then why stick with the same core in 2024? If you don’t want to blame Atkins for the offense due to lack of options, then fine (I agree the FA options sucked) but then why make the most boring cosmetic changes (KK, Turner, IKF) to a core that you know wouldn’t be good enough when you could have sold reasonably high on Bichette (for example) and pivoted from the core? I think that’s the point of contention here. Atkins wasn’t able to put lipstick on a pig (aka the offense) but he had other options that he decided not to pursue. So either way, he (and/or Shapiro) deserve blame for this mess. What you want to blame them for is just semantics at this point.
  11. That's the sad part. If the Jays hold on to win Game 2 (which they should have), then who knows what the trajectory of this franchise would have been. Maybe they win Game 3 and then lose to the Astros, but in that scenario they may not have been eager to change the direction of the team so drastically. The 2022 team had the 3rd best record in the AL. It was a really good team even with the pitching and defensive warts. They could have cleaned those things up without making it the most boring vanilla "need 4 singles to score 1 run" team in baseball. The 2023 and now 2024 seasons have been the most frustrating Jays seasons I can recall watching. I really don't want this team within striking distance in July. This is a bad team in just about every objective metric. Even if they don't start a rebuild this July, a bad season has to at least cause some change within the org.
  12. A Rays perfect game the night before Atkins is available to the media would be kinda funny.
  13. This might be the only solution that makes sense for this front office.
  14. It’s a rock and a hard place situation. Trade him for Jacob Waguespack and Chad Spanberger, or qualify him for a comp pick and use it to draft Tucker Toman. There’s no way to win here.
  15. The 2nd and 3rd Wild Card spots are currently occupied by AL Central teams. The Astros (while on a hot streak) have legit question marks due to health, and so do the Rays. In other words, the Jays barring a collapse will probably be close enough to a wild card spot to justify (in their minds) to stand pat, and honestly, based on Atkins’ track record when he sells, I’d almost prefer they stand pat just to avoid the Kikuchi for Trey Sweeney type of trades that Atkins would probably do in that scenario.
  16. Ricciardi was basically Ross Atkins if Atkins had the 15th-20th highest payroll in the league every year. They pretty much had the same strengths (big league moves, trades when buying rather than selling) and the same weaknesses (drafting, player development, trading for prospects). One thing Atkins did better than JP though was when making trades, Atkins generally did not subtract from the big league roster. During the big 2006 off season, Ricciardi acquired Glaus and Overbay in trades, but traded Hudson (starting 2B), Batista (closer who should have been a SP), and Bush (SP) in those deals. Batista and Bush combined for a 6.7 WAR in 2006 starting for other teams, while Josh Towers and Gustavo Chacin had a combined -0.9 WAR and basically cost the Jays any hope of competing that year. At least Atkins traded from the minor league system when he was getting players like Berrios and Chapman, so it had better odds of working out in his favor. Either way, if I had to choose between one or the other, I'd choose neither.
  17. I think we all fell for Shapiro’s smooth talking. He’s done some good things for the org but almost none of it has been on the actual baseball side. It’s mostly been other things (renovations, Dunedin, getting Rogers to spend). His body of work with Cleveland when he was GM there was ass. Drafting was just as bad as what we’ve seen with Atkins (if not worse). The 2001 Indians drew 3.2m fans. Shapiro took over as GM from 2002-10, and in 2010 (his final year as GM) they drew 1.4m fans. Luckily the Jays had the payroll capacity to make up for Shapiro’s weaknesses because if they had a mid tier payroll from 2020-23, then this team probably doesn’t sniff the post season.
  18. These are the names of the prospects Atkins acquired during his selling in 2017-19: Teoscar Hernandez, Samad Taylor, Thomas Pannone, Santiago Espinal, Forrest Wall, Chad Spanberger, Bryan Baker, Billy McKinney, David Paulino, Hector Perez, Jacob Waguespack, Corey Copping, Julian Merryweather, Demi Orimoloye, Trent Thornton, Ronny Brito, Andrew Sopko, Juan De Paula, Edisson Gonzalez, Curtis Taylor, Simeon Woods Richardson, Anthony Kay, Thomas Hatch, Kyle Johnston, Derek Fisher. Other than Teoscar and a season and a half of Espinal, that's a depressing list. Couldn't even turn any of those arms into useful relievers. The closest thing he's done to selling since then is trading Teo to the Mariners, and we will see if Macko turns into anything. So to answer the question, no, Atkins is not the right man for the job.
  19. Leo Jimenez coming into tonight's game has a 134 wRC+ (.260/.431/.420) and .423 xwOBA in AAA. Still 22. Supposed to be a good defensive SS. Out of options after this season. Wonder if he's trade bait or someone the Jays plan to use at the big league level. If it's the latter, then they might want to get him some big league reps somehow because he'll have to be on the 26 man roster if he's still on the team in 2025.
  20. Because they want to build a "sustainable contender" with nothing but vetrins.
  21. The pitching and defense have to be perfect every game. It's not sustainable and you gotta feel for the pitchers. Every pitch is high leverage all season. Heads need to roll for building an offense this bad while paying the CBT.
  22. Baseball God's trying to tell the Jays to sell at the deadline.
  23. Nicely done Mayza. Now please add a run (or 5) in the 9th to add some cushion.
  24. Don't like taking Garcia out for Mayza here, but much like with most decisions JS makes, you gotta hope for the best.
  25. Wow huge break for the Jays.
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