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  1. glory
    Travis might need to be demoted. He's been absolute s***. Not even "it's early struggles". I mean, "makes Goins look like a better player" levels of suckage.
  2. glory
    Well if the team is s*** in 2017, then they'll probably be s*** in 2018 as well. They have no prospects coming up, except maybe Tellez, and won't have two of their current five starters next year. If the team is out of it in June, then trade everyone. I don't know if Rogers will allow a rebuild though, that's my only fear.
  3. glory
    Yep. Counting this season, it's 3/60 for Martin and 4/78 for Tulo. With no young CA or SS within striking distance of the Majors right now, the Jays will probably just keep those two for vetrin presentz. Tulo seems like a dude who doesn't care if a team is rebuilding and he apparently hates being traded, plus he has a ntc, so not much that can be done there. Martin is f***ing unmovable at this point. No team in their right mind will touch that contract even if/when his bat comes around.
  4. glory
    What could Shapiro have done differently? Edwin had a 69 wRC+ heading into tonight. Fowler has a 40 wRC+. The core is old and declining. Now their best player is hurt. Nothing would have changed that. Pearce is s***ing the bed, but still like the signing. If he declines too, then so be it, but it made sense at the time.
  5. glory
    The Jays tanking like an NBA team.
  6. glory
    I don't think anyone really *wants* it to happen. Winning a World Series is what everyone wants, or should want. But a bad start like this will get people talking about contingency plans, and that's all it is at this point. Shatkins are smart. They won't concede anything unless the on field product is bad enough to justify it. Some times you have to hit rock bottom to see positive change, and if the Jays are still bad two months from now, then that's all people are speculating on.
  7. glory
    Yeah it will come down to what they do with Donaldson. Trading impending free agents to add more talent to the farm (if they are out of it in July) is one thing, but Donaldson is pretty much the franchise altering player. If they move him, the team is not going to be good for a few years at least. If they keep him, then they run the risk of losing him for a bag of chips after 2018 (or whatever the compensation is for losing a FA in the new CBA....3rd round pick???). Plus, if the team ends up being mediocre or trash in 2017, will it really get any better in 2018? What they do with JD will shape everything. I agree with your general point though. They got the team back in the playoffs in 2016 without touching any important prospect (they actually added to the farm in that time), and on paper put the team in a competitive spot for 2017 without losing any prospects either. I suspect they will go on a run soon, but whether it's enough of a run to a) be a legit threat for the playoffs, or be in a spot by July to avoid a Brian Cashman type of sell off, is the question.
  8. glory
    The 22 year drought had enough .500 seasons that I really don't care to see another one. If they want to go on a massive run to be in the 90 win conversation, then I'll take that over any other alternative, but I'm not expecting that after a 1-8 start where the offence is picking up where they left off at the end of last season. I think the point is if the Jays are not going to make the playoffs, then it's better for them to be bad than to be average.
  9. glory
    I'd say September 2016 was the start of it, they were still a good team prior to that. Regardless, AA built a great team in 2015 that probably should have won the World Series that year, but did it at the expense of the years after that. Shatkins/LaCava doesn't get enough credit for 2016's success as without the pitching moves they made (Estrada, Happ, and then Liriano in the 2nd half), that team would have been dead. They probably tried to extend the success against common sense, but s***, Fangraphs thought this was a mid/high-80's win team, so at least on paper it seemed like a good idea to try to win to keep the revenue pouring in while still building the farm. Unfortunately it looks like age might have finally caught up to the team as a whole.
  10. glory
    Agreed. My fear is that they will go on a bit of a run to get back to .500 and then kind of stay there the entire year. That will accomplish nothing except keeping them close enough to the 2nd WC to not start selling pieces off.
  11. glory
    Yeah that's the sad part. This new regime actually gave an honest effort to extend the small ass window AA gave them, and the players just got old. It was predictable, but I still held out hope that we could defy age for a bit longer. In hindsight, a freefall after 2016 looked pretty darn likely the moment the Price/Tulo trades happened. AA left a hero rather than staying long enough to become the villain. The Toronto fan base is stupid enough to buy it. Oh well. As long as Rogers let Shatkins do their thing for many years to come, I'm fine with it.
  12. glory
    Yep, I said at the time, AA got out to avoid dealing with the aftermath of the short window he created. The way he structured the Martin deal was pretty much the definition of "the s***** part of the deal will be someone else's problem". AA is smart as hell to have gotten out when he did. He'll get none of the blame for this.
  13. glory
    Old team that seems to have aged overnight and with nothing in the upper minors. My god it's going to be a long ass year.
  14. glory
    Pillar and Goins. Yeah, Britton's got this.
  15. glory
    Shocked I tell you.
  16. glory
    If he doesn't hit into a DP or K, I'll be shocked.
  17. glory
    Joe Smith looking good at least.
  18. glory
    I kinda want to see how bad the Jays can be this season. Like, get the #1 pick overall type of bad. It would be awful to have to sit through for a year, but kind of interesting.
  19. glory
    The Jays tanking for Wiggins.
  20. glory
    "Offence is struggling...I know! Start Zeke and bat him lead off! That will fix everything." - Gibby 1.0.
  21. glory
    I don't think Donaldson stays either. He doesn't seem like the type who will miss out on testing free agency to maximize his earnings and the front office doesn't seem like the type who will overpay him enough for him to not test free agency. I think if he is traded at all it will be at the deadline in 2018. They won't trade him before that.
  22. glory
    Conforto would look so good on the Jays.
  23. glory
    That thought entered my mind too. Trade Estrada for 'spects, and then sign him back in the off-season (assuming he's still good).
  24. glory
    Rogers won't allow a rebuild. More realistically, just trade the guys who are not going to be around in 2018 (Jose, Estrada, Liriano) and try to replenish a bit more of the farm. The Jays won't be trading Donaldson unless he publicly demands it. They aren't going to f*** up the cash cow they know they have if the team is competitive. They will have to find a way to retool for 2018.
  25. glory
    I wants Atkins to go full on Brian Cashman in July. I don't want to see the Jays go on a run just to finish .500. Either be really good or really bad. If they end up really bad, then do what you have to do.
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