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Unfortunately the Jays are probably going to hold on to everyone except Joe Smith until August (Estrada, Liriano, and Bautista). All three should be able to pass through waivers and be traded in a month when maybe their value is higher or other teams have needs come up. But if Smith isn't traded by tomorrow, then yes, that's a s***** trade deadline.
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Dunedin leading 16-0 in the 8th inning, they have 20 total hits as a team, yet Bichette is 0-6. Drops his average down to .368. Bust.
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Yep, something like that. Either start Woodruff in the 2018 rotation or start him in AAA and use him as depth when someone gets hurt or sucks. He might not be as good as Happ in 2018, but more years of control and the saved money could go into other areas to make up the difference.
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They probably won't trade Happ, but if they can get a SP who is near ready or ready and then some bit pieces, they can improve 2018 and the future in one deal.
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GDT: Angels @ Blue Jays Game 2 of 3 1:07 EST
glory replied to Spanky__99's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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Pitching prospects suck. Load up on position players in the farm system and sign old guys for the rotation. Perfect formula.
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Yeah didn't look at Hellickson's numbers this year. He was good last year but trash this year. Maybe Duquette is tanking. Hmmm.
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Orioles acquiring Hellickson. Duquette isn't playing around. He wants 4th place in the East and is not going let the Jays get it.
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But damn you really see the impact umpires make. That 2-0 pitch to JD was low and called a strike. Turns a 3-0 count into 2-1. Changes the entire complexion of the at bat. Manfred is dense as s*** if he's not planning an exist strategy with human HP umps.
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Yeah, that's a disaster waiting to happen. If they play him in the outfield he might have a shot, but no way he is an infielder.
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Damn the media got me all excited about a Liriano trade and it's been crickets ever since.
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If Tulo is out for a while, then Refsynder will probably play 2b with Goins at short. Yes, Goins will never leave the organization. Ever.
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Kole Calhoun having a poor season. Time to buy low, Atkins.
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Sure, but getting a top pitching prospect and turning 5/98 (Tulo) into 2/48 (Reyes) is still pretty good even with Reyes' decline. They didn't even want Reyes, they just needed to take the salary to improve the trade offer. Imagine if the Jays traded Tulo prior to the 2017 season, got a top pitching prospect, and took back 28mm in deadweight to cover for the 4/78 Tulo had left on his contract. We'd all be pretty happy, I think.
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Yeah, they did the smart thing. Signed him to a huge deal, got his best remaining years, and then found a sucker to take the worst years of the contract at full price before having to suffer any of the decline. I mean, they took Reyes' carcass in return, but that was a small price to pay for getting out of a deal even Stevie Wonder could see being unmovable within two years.
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Based on the chart Davidi tweeted yesterday, Stroman was the ass, not the ump. The ejections were wrong, but Stroman had no business complaining as much as he did.
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Umpires are bad at their jobs, no question about that, but you don't think they hold grudges? Bautista in his prime was the biggest prick with umpires, I'm willing to bet they all knew that. Whether it changes the way they call a game is a different story, but trying to show how big their cocks are like police hiding behind a badge is pretty routine for them. But yes, s***** at their jobs is an understatement. It's consistently bad.
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Unfortunately, Stroman's antics yesterday will make the Jays a target for umps now. The league won't do s*** because Manfred thinks holding up 4 fingers for a walk is better for the game than changing one of the worst parts of it. Umps are like the police. Nothing will happen to them.
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That one extra win that the Jays would have right now with Price and Edwin instead of Happ/Estrada and Morales would be well worth the extra investment though.
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Getting Soler would be a nice gamble to take, but getting him for Liriano seems like a huge reach. The Royals GM can't be that desperate for a rental who has no command.
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Chris Cotillo is saying Vallot was removed from the game due to back spasms.
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Man imagine if Liriano was actually having a good year? He would have been a huge asset. There is interest in him despite pitching like ass for the last two years except for Aug/Sept 2016. Getting any type of value out of him in a trade would be great.
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Eat up the rest of Liriano's (and Estrada's) salaries and get a better return. The Jays are not trying to shed payroll. They are trying to get value back on players they will lose after this season. Money saved this season is meaningless to anyone except Rogers, and even they probably would have been ok with increasing payroll if the Jays were in the race right now given the attendance. Don't have to eat up any money for Smith since he's probably viewed as an asset by other teams, but if they have to swallow $4mm or whatever it is for Liriano in order to get a better return, then do it.
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Sparkman + another lottery ticket would work for me. Sparkman by himself, not so much.