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Not really. The whole point of trading JD would be to get a top prospect or two. If teams are not willing to do that because of the lack of team control he brings, then hold on to him. Trading him for the sake of trading him in December doesn't make sense. I'd rather hope for a miracle wild card run than trade him for a top 100 prospect as the center piece.

Or Cain.

So trade him for s*** now so you don't have to trade him for lesser s*** in July or lose him for a comp pick after the season? That doesn't exactly help a rebuild, and if one top 100 prospect is all the Jays can get for him, then f*** it, just keep him and see what happens in 2018.

If the O’s decide to hold on to Machado, then the ball is in STL’s court when it comes to trade for JD. All it takes is one desperate GM.

If the Jays were rebuilding, I'd totally take on Kemp's deal if the Dodgers added some significant prospect(s) in the deal. Unfortunately with Morales already on the roster, there's really no way to make that deal now with the team "trying to contend". Dump Kendrys to the Royals (vetrin for that rebuilding roster) and then we start talking.

Yep, Reyes would be the deal breaker for me. If he is healthy and stays healthy, he can be a beast. I don't know if the Cards would trade him, but now might be the only time to make that happen since he is coming off injury. Gyorko and Reyes, then used the saved money to sign Cain. The team is no worse off than they were with JD, but add more controllable pieces, one being someone with a really high ceiling.

More than opening up a spot for Pearce, trading Morales will open up DH to rest guys throughout the year. I mean, I wouldn't rule out some type of bounce back year for Kendrys (better than 2017 at least), but ultimately it's not going to be worth much over the course of the season. Maybe a win if we're lucky and he really hits.

Damn, was hoping Dombrowski would give Hosmer a 7 year deal, or something equally stupid. That's a mediocre signing but short enough not to matter.

Yeah his hard contact and exit velocity numbers are still very good. Just has trouble with off speed stuff and rhp now for some reason.

Yeah, I'm in the "trade or extend JD" camp, but the people thinking we have to detonate the entire roster for five years just to become good again are making it too simplistic. The Yankees team right now is young and on the rise and they did that without any down period. Hell, they were trying to get down to below the luxury tax during their transition years and still made the playoffs twice during that time (2015 and 17). That 2015 team that won the 1st wild card had exactly one starting position player under the age of 30. Two years later, the team went back to the playoffs with one of the brightest young cores in the game. There's a lot of s*** that happens during the course of a baseball season that can change perspectives, nevermind over the course of many seasons. Shatkins have to make smart decisions. They have to guess right more than wrong. That comes with the territory, but they don't have to trade everyone and put scabs on the field for half a decade just to compete with the Yankees. There will be a transition period after 2018, I don't think that's avoidable, but they can rebuild and try to remain competitive for their owners at the same time. Puts a lot of pressure on their player development dept and drafting, but they seem to be very confident in that part of their org anyway, so let's see what they do.

Hey let Preller do his thing. With no Hosmer in KC and the rebuilding Royals needing a 1B/DH to be a vetrin presentz, who better than Morales? Time to root for Preller.

I don't know why anyone thought there was even a chance he (Pentecost) would get taken. Has barely played the field the last couple of years, only reached A+, and will be 25 on opening day. Hopefully the Jays have given up on him being a catcher. He may not hit enough to play anywhere else, but no way that guy will stay healthy enough to be a catcher long term.

The Angels want that 2nd wild card.

Damn I wish Buehrle was a lot younger when we acquired him and we kept him for a while. I miss that guy.

CC is not picking the Jays over the Yankees or Angels, but he would be a good signing if it happened.

Much like Fowler last year, Cain can get similar or better offers elsewhere and keep playing CF, which I’m sure he’d prefer playing. If they sign him (highly unlikely as it is) then they would have to trade Pillar. Playing him in left or right would be awful.

Have the Jays under Atkins ever made a move that was discussed by the media beforehand? I can’t think of one. The Jays next move will be for a player none of us have talked about or heard a peep about from the media.

Yep. Pillar is the type you cut bait on when he gets paid real money. Can’t hit, and fielding will only get worse. Teams usually don’t pay a high premium for outfield defence in trades either, especially if that’s the only skill a player has. The Jays won't get much for Pillar, and certainly a lot less if they wait for him to get more expensive.

I swear, when Profar goes Jean Segura on the league next season, while Pillar is frustrating the hell out of all of us, I'm bumping this thread. (or if Profar still sucks, I'll claim I was hacked).

Agreed, but I didn't want to look at the Rangers minor league system to think of any attachments. Add some bits and pieces to the deal from their end.

Sign Cain for 4/80 and then trade Pillar for Profar. Gives Cain the CF spot he probably wants from any team he signs with, gives the Jays another infielder which they are looking for, and they'll still have enough to overpay someone like Sabathia to fill the rotation. I don't expect any of the above to happen, but just throwing some s*** out there.

I don’t think people realize how lucky the Jays are with their fanbase. It’s a young, diverse, and energetic fanbase in a sport whose fanbase is mainly old white guys. There has to be some consideration taken to trying to keep that fanbase from disengaging, even if it’s competing for a wild card spot.

Burch Smith isn't going to last to where the Jays pick, is he? He would be a great pick.