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The good thing about this is that there is a deadline to sign him (Jan 1). So we will know within 2 weeks whether he's a Jay or not. Not sure what Sugano's date is, could be a week or later. So if the Jays have interest in both then shouldn't be too much longer to find out what the end result is. The other FA's might bleed into Feb/March.
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The bigger issue for the Raptors with Harden is that he's likely going to a East team, so between that and Giannis staying in Milwaukee, it's going to impact them long term if Harden goes to a team like Miami or Philly or Brooklyn. I doubt the Rockets will get a better player than Siakam in a trade from any of those teams (unless the Sixers offer Simmons). The Raps would be very small with a lineup of Kyle, Fred, Harden, OG, and Baynes, but f*** it. Make the deal and then figure out the lineup afterwards. I'm not sure about the numbers, but trading Siakam+ for Harden might still give the Raptors a max slot next season. Opens up more possibilities for them. It's a long shot, but Masai always thinks big, so can't rule it out.
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Yeah, Pascal for Harden is a no brainer. It was worth keeping options open in case Giannis was available, but now that he's not, have to strike when a legit top 5 talent becomes available.
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If MLB plays at least 120-130 games in 2021, then I'll probably be fine with it. I want 162 like everyone else, but I can see the logic in pushing the start of the season back a bit beyond just the financial reasons. If they play less than that, or even worse less than 100, then it's BS. Although with Manfred wanting 14 playoff teams as early as 2021, I don't even know if a 162 game season even means anything at this point aside from records.
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They don't seem to want Tanaka back regardless. Could be related to his always risky elbow, or maybe they view him as a backup in case they can't sign DJ. They could be in on Sugano, I have no idea, but from everything that has been speculated, it seems the Yankees are all in on DJ and that they don't want to spend much more than that. So my guess is their off season will be re-signing DJ and then making some smaller SP moves via FA or trade.
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Definitely fewer games. Owners want to limit the amount of games with no fans in attendance, as they don't want to pay the players their full salaries if they aren't getting gate revenue. So they'll delay for a month or so, hope all the players and enough of the general population are vaccinated by the start of ST/the season, and then try for a season starting in May-June with at least limited capacity. It sucks, but not surprising. More bickering between the owners and PA in the mean time, combined with a painfully slow FA market. Fun times ahead.
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If Springer signs with the Mets (which seems very likely), JBJ is the next best CF option. He'd be a really good stopgap option in CF. There will likely be real competition for him, though.
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From what I've heard/read, the Yankees aren't going to be very active if/when they sign DJ. They lost a lot of money due to Covid and don't want to increase payroll by too much. So I'd be surprised if they signed anyone significant before DJ is signed. They want to bring him back.
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If the Jays miss out on the big FA's (Springer, Bauer, DJ, Realmuto), then I don't see why Kim/Sugano would be a disappointment. Signing both of them would be risky in terms of projecting performance, they could both be good or both be busts, but the SP market after Bauer is pretty much riddled with risks (health/performance) and the non-SS infield market isn't that much better.
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What will be interesting is that I believe Ha-Seong Kim's posting period ends on January 1. So I guess we'll know in a little over 2 weeks whether that's happening or not. If it doesn't happen, and DJ is back with the Yankees, then the Jays will need an IF from somewhere, and rumors might get out of control by then if Lindor is still with CLE.
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The Jays are one of the few teams that are willing to spend money this winter, and presumably have a lot of it to spend. Supply is exceeding demand to a ridiculous level in the free agent market. The Jays best prospects are in low A, and the 2020 minor league season was wiped out, so they'd be selling low if they moved any of their top 10 prospects. The Jays don't need a SS. All of those things combined means the Jays should be prioritizing free agency right now, not a trade for a rental SS who will need a decade long extension to keep around. As painful as it is for fans, the Jays can afford to wait for every FA except Kim and Sugano (assuming they are in on one or both), since there is a posting deadline for them. Beyond those two, there are still very good FA's available even if the Mets sign Springer and Bauer, or someone else signs Bauer. Absolutely no need to trade for Lindor. It won't even benefit them in the box office in 2021 due to the pandemic.
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McCann's the first domino. Realmuto's not going to the Mets, so they are probably going to end up overpaying Springer now that they have a catcher. Hopefully things will start picking up now. I could definitely see Realmuto still being unsigned late into January, unless Dombrowski gets the greenlight to spend. I don't see any obvious fit with money. Maybe the Nats?
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Jeff Passan is basically MLB Woj and he thinks Lindor's going to the Jays or Mets. There's probably a very real shot. I've said before I'd be wary of a ridiculous FA style extension for Lindor (10+ years), but if the Jays do happen to trade for him and extend him, then I have enough faith in Mark and Ross to trust their judgment. When talking about signing Gerrit Cole, Michael Kay (announcer for the Yankees) said Cole was Brian Cashman's "white whale". He was going to get him regardless of what it cost. Maybe Lindor is that for Shatkins. Signing Kim, trade Gurriel for Lindor, and then moving Biggio to the OF seems like it would work. Grichuk still being in CF would suck, though. I'd still prefer something like Springer + Kim, but Springer is probably heading to the Mets.
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Kim is younger than every position player on the team except Vlad, Bo, and Kirk. If he turns out to be good, and the Jays have him locked up for the rest of his 20's, then that would be a great outcome. Of course he has very real bust potential too, more than any of the MLB free agents they could sign, so that's where they have to use their scouting to determine whether they believe in his upside and ability to hit big league pitching/velocity.
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General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
glory replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The Phillies just gave Dombrowski $20m over four years. I don't think they hired him to rebuild or significantly cut payroll, so JTR going back to Philly has probably become a real possibility now. I tend to agree that the Jays are open to anything but are more likely to hit the middle of the market unless a big name falls to them. Springer (Mets), DJ (Yanks), JTR (Phils?), Bauer (Angels?) all seem like long shots now. The Jays are probably shopping in the Kim, Brantley, JBJ, Sugano, Paxton, Odorizzi, etc, market but are waiting to see what happens to the big dogs first. -
General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
glory replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The SP market is so underwhelming outside of Bauer. I wonder what Sugano ends up getting. He did play on the same team as Yamaguchi so I'm sure the Jays are familiar with him. -
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Dombrowski's first move will be to sign Harper to a 3 year extension so that his contract ends in 2034 instead of 2031.
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Semien would be a good target if the Jays needed a SS. If they sign Kim he's likely going to play 3B, whereas Semien may want to stick at short, especially if he has to sign a shorter deal. I think the only acquisition who would take Bo off SS is Lindor.
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I don't think the Jays are getting Bauer, but it's interesting how the team has been linked to everyone, literally everyone, but little to no mention of Bauer from what I've seen (or maybe I missed it). Not even Morosi trying to troll for clicks. Maybe Luba's presence on social media is scaring the faux rumor specialists like Morosi from posting.
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Imagine being a billionaire, buying your childhood team with your own money, and just signing everyone you want within a month of owning the team. Cohen living every sports fan's dream. Good for him and the Mets. Unfortunately, bad for the Jays.
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Seems like the Mets will get McCann and probably Springer. I wonder if they go after Bauer too?
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Unless there is a surprise team out there with money looking for a catcher, I think the Jays end up with Realmuto at this rate (assuming McCann ends up with the Mets).
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If the Jays have been linked to him and it's not based on a Morosi tweet, then that's good. The Ryu connection/friendship would certainly help in that case. Of course the Jays have been interested in everyone this winter according to baseball media.
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Yankees apparently lost more money than any team in baseball in 2020, they don't want to go crazy in luxury tax territory, and have to re-sign LeMathieu. If they re-sign DJ, then I don't think they are going to spend much on pitching.