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If the Jays acquired Segura, there is no chance he plays SS over Bo. As mentioned he'd probably be the starting 3B who can cover all the IF positions when Montoyo wants to move pieces around. 2021: $14.25m 2022: $14.25m 2023: $1m (no way his $17m option is picked up) So you're looking at 2 years and almost $30 million. He wouldn't be a bad stop gap, but in this market that's an overpayment. If the Phillies are willing to eat up some money or take back a contract (Roark/Grichuk are the only "bad" ones), then it's worth looking into.
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The Mets won't suck in 2021 most likely, but they are a harder long term sell even if they do spend money this winter. Syndergaard (recovering from TJS), Stroman, and Matz are free agents after 2021. So is Conforto. Nimmo and Lugo after 2022. deGrom can opt out after 2022 (he'll be 34 by then so who knows if he will). Their farm system got Brodie'd the last two years which doesn't help. So yeah, if Springer chooses the Mets, which he very well could, it won't be because of team situation.
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Realistically, Springer's market is probably the Jays, Mets, and Red Sox if they are willing to spend (no clue if they are). Can't think of any other teams with the combination of need and willingness to spend that much in the current environment. I'm not sure the Jays would be Springer's first choice if the other two teams are legit after him, but money talks. I think Springer's probably the Jays best chance at the top end of the FA market. DJ appears to want to stay in NY and Bauer could sign with practically anyone for any amount of time and it wouldn't surprise me. Although if the Mets can't get Realmuto for whatever reason then signing JTR and trading Jansen for a CF/SP/3B might be a decent pivot, but he seems too perfect for the Mets for them to pass, IMO. Of course the non tender list tomorrow night might add some new possibilities.
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I like that concept of the draft league. The MLB draft doesn't have the same juice as other leagues (NBA/NFL) due to 1) prospects not being known and 2) how far away they are from actually reaching the Majors, but this at least tries to help solve #1. Put the games on the MLB Network, MLB.tv, YouTube, etc. Couldn't hurt.
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I could definitely see the Jays signing Springer. Of all the "impact" free agents available, he seems most likely based on need and likelihood of signing (DJ loves NY, Bauer is unpredictable, and Realmuto makes more sense for the Mets). But Morosi's sources are the voices in his head. I'd wait for someone credible to bring it up.
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Trollosi knows what he’s doing. The Jays have a large online presence. All he has to do is put #bluejays and he’ll get a lot of engagement and possibly radio interviews. Every year people fall for it. We need Shapiro to pull a Steve Cohen and roast him on Twitter.
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My attempts to get Morosi’s name and rumors banned on this forum will never die. He’s not a legit source.
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Yeah, Vlad needed that embarrassment and failure to change his ways. He wasn't going to develop that work ethic out of the blue. It had to come out of failure and self reflection. So in a way, showing up to post pandemic camp embarrassingly out of shape and having a disappointing 2nd season might have been a blessing if it motivated him to change. It's one thing to say he was embarrassed, it's another to put in the work, and he's clearly doing the latter, which is a great sign. We'll see what he looks like on Opening Day. He's never going to look like Mike Trout, but he doesn't have to. Just be in solid baseball shape where mobility and conditioning is not an issue, and he should be fine.
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A light bulb had to go off in Vlad's head about his conditioning for him to take it seriously (short and long term), and I think the Spring Training 2.0 where he came in looking like Sandoval and had to move off 3B because of it might have been that moment. Hopefully this is a long term change for him. He could prolong his career and his prime by taking his weight/conditioning seriously. Good to see so far.
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Man this is a boring off season.
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There are less than a handful of teams that are looking to spend real money this winter. For once, unrealistic optimism might be warranted. Doesn't mean they'll succeed in signing anyone big, but the great equalizer in free agency is money, and if the Jays are looking to spend it without much competition, then they have as good a chance as any. The Mets are the team that everyone should be expecting at least 2 big names to go to, though.
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Basically saying what Rosenthal said in the Athletic article. Also mentions Jays interest in Kim, but cited Morosi as the source, so doesn't mean anything (yet).
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The Astros are apparently looking to trade Correa. The Jays haven’t had that level of douche since JD was traded so I doubt they’ll be interested but that’s another rental SS on the trade block.
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Look at the FA market. There's not much there, and Tanaka is only 2 years older than Bauer. Some others are interesting but coming off significant injury/down years. Even the best SP trade targets appear to be 34 year old Darvish (coming off a career year) and 33 year old Lynn. Assuming Tanaka stays healthy, and that's always going to be an "if" even though he's avoided it so far, then he's a reasonable target, if not unspectacular. He wouldn't be my first choice in a normal situation, mainly because of his elbow, but the market isn't exactly littered with better options.
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Looking at the FA starters, I'm actually warming up to the idea of Tanaka. His elbow still scares me, but 1) success in the AL East over many years, 2) no drop in velocity, and 3) shouldn't be more than a 3 year deal at a 2-3 WAR type of AAV (~$15M). Whether he'd want to sign in Toronto/Buffalo/Dunedin is another story.
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General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
glory replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
AA walking away from the Jays was probably the smartest thing he ever did. He knew he had one foot out the door in 2015, so he went all in, and then left on the highest of high notes after ending a 20 year drought knowing that he didn't have to deal with the consequences afterwards. Then he takes over a job in Atlanta where someone else did all the grunt work and he just has to sign one or two free agents on one year deals every year because the rest of the roster/farm is set for him for the foreseeable future. If he stayed in Toronto and had to suffer the stench of 2017-19, then his stock drops. Boss move(s). I think AA leaving and Atkins taking over worked out desirably for everyone involved. Atkins, while I have been critical of some of his moves in isolation, has overall done a very fine job in rebuilding the farm system and putting the team in position to be a long term contender very soon. I don't think AA coming off 2015 would have been as patient had he stayed. -
They'll have a max slot available next off season, plus all their draft picks. Even if Giannis signs elsewhere, they'll have options. If they strike out on everyone, then I don't see them tanking either way unless Masai leaves.
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I actually like that Masai is preserving cap space for next summer rather than trying to foolishly improve this season's team at the expense of future cap space. Let's face it, other than a trade for Harden, which isn't happening, the Raptors don't have the upper end talent to compete for a championship. The only way to win in the NBA is to have a top 5 player on your roster. If Giannis has even a 5-10% chance of happening, then you have to take that chance unless another star falls on your lap before then. The only way to attract a star in free agency is to have a great team already so that the star feels he can be the missing piece. If the Raptors win 50 games again, even if they lose in the 2nd round, it would still be a desirable outcome for Giannis. More desirable than going to Miami instead? Probably not, but hey, gotta at least try.
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Jays have 5 catchers on the 40 man roster now. There's still some replaceable parts that they can remove when they need a spot opened up (Shaw, Wags, Fisher), but there will definitely be a trade or two involving the catching depth.
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Jays almost had a deal for Joe Musgrove at the deadline but it fell apart at the last minute so they went with Ray and Stripling instead. Wouldn't mind the Jays and Cherington revisiting that this winter, though it will cost real prospects.