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I don't think the InGuardians will trade Ramirez, but if they do, they always seem to prioritize some sort of short term help along with prospect capital. Maybe they would have interest in Gurriel, but he'd have to be included along with top prospects. To me, I'd want to hold on to Moreno and Martinez, but I'd be ok moving anyone else. Montoyo didn't seem all that eager to play Kirk down the stretch so maybe he's trade bait. I don't know if Groshans, Kirk, and Gurriel even gets their attention, but something like that is probably a starting point. They may insist on Moreno + others. I still think Matt Chapman is a better target. Should be cheaper to acquire and the A's are almost guaranteed to cut payroll.

I'd root for anybody over the Rays, so as long as it's the Yanks/Red Sox, Astros, or White Sox in the World Series on the AL side, I don't care who wins.

If I'm Shatkins, I'm throwing a shitload of money at Scherzer over three years. Make him take less to stay in Cali or somewhere else. He fits the rotation perfectly, and the visual of seeing Charlie Montoyo having to take his crazy ass out of a game is worth a few more million tacked on.

Agreed. Unless they decide to slash payroll for some reason, I fully expect more home run swings by the front office. The chances of them hitting the holy grail of off seasons again (Semien/Springer/Ray) is very unlikely, especially now as more teams will probably spend money (as opposed to last winter when the Jays were only 1 of like 3 teams who spent anything), but either way I expect them to shop in the elite section again. What remains to be seen is whether they legitimately try to re-sign Semien and Ray, or try to find the 2022 versions of Semien and Ray. I think you can make an argument for either approach depending on how you want to look at it. Not sure who the one year deals will be in 2022. Maybe one of the SS's coming off a down year or don't see a market due to heavy competition may take a one year pillow deal. Only Story and maybe Baez fit that category. A LH bat like Conforto, who the Mets may not qualify, will probably look for a one year pillow deal coming off a down season, and he fits the Jays needs perfectly (buy low). On the pitching side, ideally the Jays go bonkers and just offer a high AAV over 3 years for Scherzer, but I don't think he'd have any interest in the Jays. Syndergaard might be the 2022 version of Ray if he's healthy, but the Mets would be foolish not to qualify him.

I'm not sure we can pin the lack of early season trades on Shatkins since you don't see many significant May trades, but I think they deserve more blame for the bullpen setup prior to the season. They threw $10m on Yates (injured when he put pen to paper), Chatwood (awful for years), and Phelps (oft injured). Beyond that, they were counting on good health for Merryweather and Borucki, two guys who are never healthy, and Dolis to be good after a fluke 24 innings in 2020. The pen had some upside with health, but without health, it went about as well as you could have pictured it in that scenario. Once you combine that with Buntoyo having no clue how to manage a bullpen, and it becomes more clear why we are all pissing and moaning today rather than waiting for a Wild Card game tomorrow.

If the Jays are losing Ray, then they could do a hell of a lot worse than Stroman as the replacement, but no chance it happens.

Yeah, if the Jays weren't going to make it, then I'm fine with NYY/BOS from a baseball fan standpoint. It's the biggest rivalry in the sport (even though it's not as intense as it used to be) and should be a great atmosphere at Fenway. But as mentioned, it will be on ESPN, so will have to watch it on mute. If anything, I'm actually rooting for whoever wins the WC game to take out the Rays.

My fear is that they won't want to give him lameduck status next year, which means if he's not fired, then he might actually be extended (even if only for another year). If they keep him around, and MLB expands the playoffs in 2022, then I think he's going to be around for a while, unfortunately. Even with Buntoyo this team can probably make a playoff format with 7 teams in each league making it in.

Yup, to me that's the biggest reason the Jays missed the playoffs. We can blame Charlie, Semien's error, or any other mistake made in a game, but the team played 36 home games all season. Clearly they do really well at RC, and with a crowd that actually supports them. Even with Montoyo managing this team makes the playoffs if they play in RC a month or two earlier than they did, even if capacity was 5k. Just frustrating.

Yeah seriously. It's almost embarrassing the team didn't make the playoffs given how many things went right this year. To expect even half of the good things that happened in 2021 to carry over to 2022 is asking a lot. On top of that I fully expect Charlie to get extended now, so I don't want to hear a single "it was fun to be in it in September" excuse. These types of opportunities don't come around often, and the Jays were easily a WS contender if they made it. I hate everything right now.

Yeah he's either getting extended (likely) or fired (not likely), IMO. No in between.

Buntoyo, the pen, Canadian government, Semien error against the Tigers.....it's going to be a long off season.

I hate Mercer.

I wish the Nats a lifetime of misery just for this weekend.

This is why I like the idea of teams getting to choose their opponents in the playoffs (assuming they follow through with the expanded playoff format). It's a much more fun way of determining first round matchups, and instantly builds rivalries/intrigue. As far as today, as frustrating as the season has been at many points, we are at 162 with something to play for. Today is going to be nuts with all the games starting at the same time.

That was clearly a strike. Did I mention I hate the Nats?

With the way Stripling has pitched, not sure he'd be the right guy to bring in if Ryu sucked early and they wanted to limit damage. My guess (hope) is it will be a bit of a bullpen game, where if Ryu looks bad early then they waste no time and pull him. I don't think that's how it will play out with Montoyo managing, but that should be the approach.

The Nats are terrible.

Montoyo watched Giles blow his arm out and let him throw a few more pitches after that. He's not taking Vlad out until Vlad himself says something.

Yankee fans obviously want their team to win, but also hate the way the team is managed/built, so they seem to voice their displeasure whenever something bad happens. They view Boone the same way we view Charlie.

3 run bomb by Renfroe, 3-0 Boston. Damn.

I like how now "3rd time through the order" is a thing when it wasn't 24 hours ago. And Matz tonight has been better than Ray last night.

Snell was dominating the Dodgers. Ray's velocity seemed a bit down and he was far from dominating regardless of how many runs he gave up until the big inning by the Yankees.

Kirk rarely plays now. I wouldn't take his cold streak to mean much. If he plays once, then doesn't play again for a few days, rinse and repeat, then it gets harder to build any sort of rhythm. Keep in mind he also missed a lot of the season due to injury. Montoyo just wants to use all 3 catchers because like a good little league coach he wants to give everyone a chance. I don't think there is any method to his madness when it comes to the catchers.

It's splitting with the Twins that hurt. If they win 3/4 like they should have, then the Jays are tied for WC2 right now and in a much better spot. Losing 2/3 to a hot Yankees team is not the end of the world, but they needed to take advantage of the weak schedule and didn't do it (at least with the Twins). I'm not expecting a sweep of the O's, more likely 2/3, which means we have to hope the Red Sox and M's both lose 2/3. I don't think that's happening.