Biggest predictors of pitching health are past IL history and number of pitches thrown. I agree with the bold.
I don't think the Jays have any unique IP for "keeping SPs healthy". The Rays lost McLanahan, Springs and Rasmussen last yr, as a well regarded org. Robbie Ray had been a horse, until he wasn't. After all the research its still can be pretty random and unpredictable.
One of the theories posed for Manoah's '23 decline was his jump to 196 IP in '22. Who knows? Bassitt hit 200 IP in '23 for the 1st time. Will that affect him @ 35 in 2024?
Pitching should remain a relative strength even though its improbable that '23 rotation health will be repeated.
Good report. Flags on health and durability offset some by the AFL outings. The stuff isn't in question.
I'm not surprised, according to Sorrow, they would move him for a 4-5 WIN player, 3-4 years of control. Unfortunately, they are unicorns.
Joc is a useful piece. As usual your take in optimistic IMO. Nothing wrong with that.
However, Pederson's career wRC+ vs LHP & RHP are based on 4000 PAs. I think they are indicative of what we can truly expect from him, regardless of Belts actual or under lying numbers the last couple years.
Agreed. 6 WAR down with Chappy and Belt gone. KK projects 1. '23 he was 2.2. I don't expect Varsho WAR to improve - unless he plays more CF.
Joc is a poor man's Belt. Career 73 wRC+ vs LHP - virtually unplayable. 125 vs RHP with power. Useful piece. Belt 136 in 2023.
Both Bo and Vlad need to be 5 ish WAR players again, with increased O from Kirk & Springer. Its possible. Based on projections, its not probable. Springer was healthy last year which is rare. He is another year older and 29th percentile Avg EV is concerning.
I expect some pitching regression (health and/or performance) and concerned about our overall depth there, so the offense and D will have to be solid. Pitching is still a relative strength.
No, I don't give a s*** about the order of signings. Just the total projected WAR value add. I think they are still looking to add a bat and working on a major trade.
Extrapolating '23 WAR calculations for a RP with their inherent volatility, especially one coming off major arm surgery, is risky. I'll make you a friendly wager between a couple Albertans for $100 we don't see 1.6 fWAR from Green in 2024. (that was his '21 total)
I hope the Jays don't see him as that.
IKF has a career 80 wRC+ in 2500 PAs. The math on the probability he has offensive upside is not good. He is a glove - relatively expensive depth IF/OF piece.
Ya. IKF's "GG" came in 58 games in 2020 with Tex. Elite D numbers small sample size a lifetime ago. Wasting a 3B power position for him in the AL East does not seem very enticing. It why they are dumpster diving for Gio and other options.
"WAR is WAR" calculations. KK projects 1 WIN. IKF was 0.2 in '23. Chappy & Belt were 6 WAR now gone.
Will the rotation be as healthy/productive as '23? Are Berrios and Kooch going to be '22 or '23 level in '24? Does Manoah come back and offset any rotation WAR regression? The pen has some question marks like most pens. They spent a lot exercising Green's option, so hopefully he is healthy and effective. They picked up Hicks for solid reasons.
If Vlad and Bo are both 5 ish WAR players again - problem pretty much solved. With hope Springer, Kirk and Varsho add to their '23 totals. Their projections are interesting.
The rest of this off season and 2024 are going to be really fascinating as the window narrows further.
We saw what? 5 weeks of Green. Mostly promising results to be sure but he is coming off major surgery. There is still a lot of risk there. This Board is always talking about the extreme volatility of relievers. Not without some good rationale.
Of course. The off season isnt complete. Some fan's reaction's are related to their perception of the last few seasons and a number of other things including heightened expectations surrounding the hunt for Sho and Soto and other big names Jays were in on or rumored to be in on (whether true or reporter's ********).
While not "outraged", I happened to really hate watching IKF play when he was in pin stripes and I am really not looking forward to 2 seasons of him here. I get he is a glove and Espy sucks, but it sticks in my craw having to pay that kind of depth coming off a 0.2 WAR season 2/15.
I dont know what the budget is other than what Shapiro said but we have spent $30M ish AAV on OF and IF D and a set up man coming off elbow surgery - so far. I still think a more major move via trade is in the works (that may or may not happen) and we pick up a Hoskins or a JD type bat.
Fair take.
Varsho needs to move to CF to be full value. Who doesn’t like KK, but $10M for D depth. We do need increased offense wherever it comes from. At 2+ WAR in '23 he was a bargain. I don't expect 130 gms and over 400 PAs again given his age and IL history.
Great morning.
It just wouldn't be Christmas without my brother in law's 75 year old Dad trapping me at a family get together last night to tell me "Jays just need to play a little more small ball and they need to sign Chapman for $20M next year because they got nobody else to play 3B".
Merry Christmas All!
Every time I think of Irabu I can't help but think of that Seinfeld scene of George Constanza's Dad Frank raving in court about Steinbrenner giving him $12M.