Agreed. Roden's AAA performance tells me he's still a guy to watch out for. His issues at the MLB level have been swing angle related, I think once he gets over the adjustment period he can still be a guy of value. The defense has been better than advertised which at least gives him a floor as an MLB player.
Clase's age still makes him interesting enough to somewhat dream on. He won't be a superstar, but switch hitter with elite speed and untapped power potential is someone you don't write off while only being 23. He's a bench guy right now, and a low end regular with some more seasoning with a chance for more. He's not a true CF however, his reads are lacking.