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Jamie Evans' velocity program, not Delabar's. He's just their greatest success story so far. http://gregorchisholm.mlblogs.com/2013/06/21/qa-with-jamie-evans-of-the-velocity-program/

Because it's a thread about the 2014 catching situation and he doesn't figure in the plans

I'm not talking about a fringe guy. I'm talking about an established consistent back end pitcher. Those don't grow on trees.

http://i.minus.com/i4hxPcAl7rIY9.gif Cabrera is on board

Finally! Someone else that's excited to see Dickey start heating up!

If I felt Happ was a reliable back-end starter that could give +170IP why wouldn't you? I'm not completely sold on Happ yet though.

I wouldn't personally target Porcello but, if I had the opportunity to turn Delabar in to a solid SP, even a back-end guy, I'd be all over it.

In the off-season absolutely. Need him for the playoff drive atm though.

Everything I've read said he should get less than Puig based on true talent. You never know what can happen, especially with the way the LAD have been spending their new TV deal.

I've been reading somewhere between the $10M Hech got and the $42M deal Puig signed. It seems like he'll be up over $30M but others on here would know better than myself.

It's been speculated that he is MLB ready and should only need a month or so in the minors.

This just makes too much sense for both sides, make it happen AA.

Hopefully! With Johnson probably walking at the end of the year they are going to need him even more.

These guys are 3-6 years away at the time of the trade. I don't even know what you are trying to argue, it makes no sense.

Because they were going forward with JPA, it had absolutely nothing to do with Nessy or Jimenez.

The Jays traded their top prospect, who by all accounts is MLB ready, because of a couple guys in A ball? Fat chance.

I've been on the Jimenez bandwagon for years. Even if everything goes right chances are he wont be as good as McCann or Ruiz and he isn't MLB ready. I can't see any reason why going in to 2014 with AJ as the starter would be a good idea...

The OBP # is a completely subjective number based on what I've seen from AJ so far. A .240/.280/.350 slash line would the top end of my expectations. I wouldn't be for using AJ as a backup next season, he needs playing time more than a spot on an MLB roster. You could get a defensive specialist for cheap that would perform the same as AJ. It's not just nice words. They traded d'Arnaud and passed on several far superior players last off-season. Things have changed but, of AA's actions point to JPA being the starter going forward.

You can like the player without liking the trade. I was one of the most vocal in my dislike of what I still view as an over-payment from a GM desperate to contend after selling them farm and upping the budget. I love RA Dickey though

Fun fact, through their age 23 seasons AJ Jimenez has 728 PA's less (1291 PA vs 2019 PA) than d'Arnaud. People are quick to point out d'Arnaud durability concerns but don't acknowledge Jimenez has never played a full season, he has gotten hurt literally or platooned every single year. There are huge red flags there. From the games I;ve seen of Jimenez he is no doubt a better defensive receiver than JPA. I'm not great at evaluating catcher D so I can't really comment on how he stacks up vs the rest of the league. There is no reason to believe he would put up an OBP over .280 in The Show though, the bat needs a lot of work. That's the Jose Molina route I mentioned earlier. I;d totally be ok with that as long as they bring in a vet who can actually play defense. Actions speak way louder than words. I'm not dim enough to believe that AA and co have been happy with JPA's performance to date. However I do know that the team feels JPA is getting better and that he will continue to get better going forward. They truly believe he has what it takes.

Who cares. You already started a Kalfus thread, does every thread need to turn in to a Kalfus circle jerk?

d'Arnaud was in the exact same spot as Jimenez (but a year younger and with a much better prospect pedigree) two years ago, he's still in AAA. s*** happens especially with young catchers. I agree 100% with what you said about his defence but, the bat is a HUGE question mark. Probability suggests he is far more likely to be the next Jeff Mathis than the next Yadier. Sorry, I think I need to expand here a bit. I meant that Jimenez strong season has boosted his value immensely, I expect him to continue to have a great season and maintain that value in to the off-season. That being said after another year in AAA will he have more value next year? From my view his value wouldn't change much but, perhaps I'm wrong, as you said it's highly subjective. IMO it would take strong play at the MLB level to raise his stock at that point which is why I threw out the term peaked. We may see Jimenez in September, especially if he keeps this pace up. I'm guessing it will be Nickeas that gets the call as third catcher and we don't see Jimenez until 2013. Certainly could happen but, that would require Jimenez leaping JPA and AA has shown no indications he is leaning that way or that it is even a possibility.

Maybe in 2016 not at the moment though and it isn't close.

No guarantees Jimenez will even be a starting MLB C. Theoretically, he could be up this year or next but, that doesn't mean he'll produce or stick at the MLB level. He has a long ways to go still and is realistically 2-3 years away, if at all, from being a consistent contributor for the Jays. TBH I think Jimenez value might have peaked as a prospect and now may be the time to sell. McCann or Ruiz would give AA another big chip to move in a package for a starting pitcher, which is a big bonus IMO. The Jays have been running replacement level C since Jose Molina left and there are two AS level players potentially available on the FA market. They have to at least make a phone call and see what it would take to bring one of them in.