KingKat

This is more typical.

I'm not exactly gbill's biggest fan or supporter but I don't have a problem with this thread topic at all. He didn't even turn it into a crude joke or anything.

Since I'm out of the lottery, I probably have no choice but to try to get serious. I need warm bodies badly. I only have ten or so sure fire keepers and a lot of place holders that can be upgraded. Tomas is losing 3B (probably) so that's a hole. So is shortstop. Betts should lose CF. That job probably goes to Turner but it would be nice to have a second option so that Tuner can slide to 2B as needed so that's a need as well and finally, I have no closers and a very thin rotation past the top 3.

I you're talking about the decision to q.o., I think it's safe to say that Saunders has made that decision already with his poor play but if you're talking about whether to try to extend him at a better cost then yeah... It could come down to how the Bautista situation (and to some extent the Eddie situation too) get resolved. You only want to run out so many pylons out there even with a DH spot to work with.

I doubt it. I think he's probably pretty easily signable for less than the q.o. amount and I could see it happening. The new front office seems to take a bird in the hand approach so if they can get him signed early at a cost that makes sense, I think they might do that rather than take chances in the FA market. Really depends how their opinion of his health has evolved. Do they see him as someone who has turned the corner health wise of do they see him as a injury waiting to happen that's somehow been miraculously dodged in 2016. If they're not too worried about his health, they'll ink him.

Even after this putrid second half season, Saunders still has a full win over Bruce which surprised me. Bruce really sucks. In hindsight, that non-trade looks pretty dumb even if I do understand the rationale.

Seems pretty calm to me.

He's not young but he's cheap and the FA market for relievers will probably be bananas again. Getting better value for the money seems highly improbable.

Are you getting Barnes confuse with Dermody? Barnes is a righty.

Yes but that's what battling is. You fight off the good pitches until eventually you get a bad one. FFS.

http://media.theiapolis.com/b000000/d4/hU0/i27UM/k4/l28Q3/t5/u1/w1HC/y07/joaquin-phoenix-as-commodus-in-gladiator.jpg

Sure but he never even sees that pitch if he doesn't foul off a bunch of good strikes. Sometimes you gotta give some credit to the opponent.

Kim just battled like a mofo. Most batters would have struck out there.

Osuna really isn't pitching badly guys.

Killer at bat by Kim. Have to tip your hat.

I've pretty much talked myself out of the piggyback. Sanchez + as few relievers as possible should be plan A. By then, Liriano will have made his last start and be the mopup guy going forward and as a LHP he's not even a bad option if it's the Orioles though Orioles or not if it comes down to Francisco, it means things have gone very poorly and the team might be f***ed regardless.

I'm not convinced Stroman is preferrable to a reliever. Happ or Estrada might be. Mostly I'd say that what I posted confirms that Sanchez is the right guy and can be trusted deep into the game. Piggy-back should be thought of a more of an insurance policy than a strategy. The only starter who seems to have lights out reliever potential is Sanchez himself. Hurl's plan makes a lot of sense.

So based on what I posted above: - Sanchez is the best of the five first time through the order and as good as anyone second or third time through. - Happ has a pronounced dropoff third time through and somewhat counter-intuitively should have a short leash in those situations. - Recent counter examples aside, Estrada doesn't really drop off second or third time through. - Stroman really shouldn't see a lineup three times. - Liriano shouldn't either and really probably shouldn't be starting in a high leverage game.

Marco Estrada: [h=4]Times Facing Opponent in Game[/h]Direct Link · Glossary · SHARE · Embed · CSV · Export · PRE · LINK · ? 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Happ: Times Facing Opponent in Game Direct Link · Glossary · SHARE · Embed · CSV · Export · PRE · LINK · ? 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Seems like the best way to compete against a bullpen start from the O's would be to piggy back starters. No third time through the lineup for anyone.

Yeah and it's an unwritten rule in baseball that if you're out of it, you field as competitive a roster as possible against teams that are still in it. You only get cute against teams that are also out of it.

Oh o.k. Something about his profile threw me off... In any case the Puphood and RealAccountant accounts don't line up. If RA is the dogg than Puphood probably isn't.

I don't think they are the same dude. The IP info and respective emails suggests as much. If they can't both be the dogg than we're probably wrong about one of them. When did RealAccountant is the dogg start? Did he ever own up to that? I think he might actually be (name redacted) and puphood would be the dogg.

What other needs do they even have?

Brownie wants baseball brawls to go all Mad Max.