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  1. I think it's fair to say that before the draft, amongst the crowd that actually discusses the draft before hand, Deck was the least popular option. It was largely felt that JP had already gone the low ceiling college guy route too many times. After the draft, there was some hedging. Maybe it's worth it to have someone who can come up and provide innings quickly, that sort or thing. It's obvious in hindsight, that he went too early in the draft. You can't afford to waste an opportunity to get impact talent. The pick would have been much easier to defend if it had come later.
  2. People were very down on him before the pick. There was a lot of anyone but Deck talk. After the pick, it was about 50-50. The FO kind of sold the idea that he had more upside than the mainstream scouting reports said. I knew nothing about prospects back then and had no real reason not to believe it so I bought into it. A lot of people were like, you never know, maybe they know something we don't. I don't really remember who was virulently against the pick but there was definitely a camp that just hated it.
  3. If one days this thread gets bumped, I want to do down as the one who called Deck s*** and didn't hedge to look smarter later should the unlikely occur.
  4. I would be monumentaly shocked. I think he clears waivers for them and becomes an org guy. I'd be surprised if even Beane himself has a higher expectation.
  5. Hardly. Not every Beane move is some sort of super ninja GM move. Sometimes, he just throws s*** against the wall like everybody else. Deck=s***.
  6. Good read although I think a better approach would take into account the win spectrum. Wins above expectations are worth the most something if they help you get to the playoffs. Wins above expectations that are lower on the spectrum are essentially hollow victories. Billy Beane wouldn't necessarily fair any worse by that measure (he probably doesn't) but a GM could theoretically score really well by consistently fielding a roughly .500 win team on a below average payroll (again, that's not what Beane is doing, it just strikes me as a flaw in the approach).
  7. Look I like Billy Beeane too but he's not a miracle worker. Sometimes the garbage he obtains is still just garbage. Remember Bobby Kielty?
  8. Yeah probably. They'd have to do quite a few of these deals to have the cash to do something at the deadline and that's assuming that accounting allows them to move the cash from one column to the other.
  9. And this impacts Jays payroll how? Oh right, it doesn't.
  10. Sometimes the pessimissism on this board just blows my mind. All he's ever done is suck. All he's ever going to do is suck.
  11. This is your exact sentence: Michael Crouse is black, Canadian, fast and strong, BUT SUCK.
  12. Jesse Chavez was actually good with the Jays.
  13. Deck = useless, cash = useful
  14. That sounds like a great deal for the Jays. They could certainly use cash more than they could use Deck right now.
  15. He really does suck. Very athletic, totally looks the part until he swings.
  16. Yes but high leverage is largely a creation of the order you put the pitchers in. If you use Janssen and Loup and Stroman blows the game, that's no better than having Stroman get hit hard and not having high leverage inning for Janssen and Loup. So what if you guaranteed that Janssen and Loup went in the game, the importance of the innings they give you to the final outcome is still just as dependant on what Stroman does and you're f***ing with people's comfort and habits for no good reason. Relievers like having a rough idea when they're coming in. They like to know roughly when to slam down their red bull and what not and Stroman has a ritual he goes through when he's starting that wouldn't be the same when he's coming in form the bullpen. You'd mess with that just to artificially assure that you don't miss your chance of putting Janssen and Loup in the game.
  17. Honestly, what advantage would there be to pitching your closer, set-up guy and starter in reverse order like that? I really don't see any.
  18. Not quantifiable=I'll quantify it anyways
  19. You could say that but if your alternative to signing big free agent contracts yourself is to give up cheap controllable assetts to obtain them via trade (essentially the Marlins trade) then I'd say being risk averse on the free agent market hasn't worked out so great.
  20. Filling in perfectly for Santos if that's the case.
  21. Mere OFs and CFs and not the same. CFs can be a real bitch to lock up and a whole slew of terrrible contracts have been handed out to them (Matthew Jr., Wells, Upton). That being said the team does have Gose and both him and Pompey have similar floors so maybe Pompey is expendable but god forbid you go to the free agent market for a CF. That's where GMs go to die.
  22. Fixed myself here.
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