Olerud363

You might be right. I always thought he was fat but maybe he's just a grubby mess. Never met him.

Moogy = elite slick business guy with lots of letters, degrees and calculus... Or Moogy= fat hipster blogger????????

Wait... That sign off sounds familiar some how.

Round these parts there's an inspirational GE commercial http://www.marketmenot.com/ge-my-mom-works-at-ge-commercial/ Little Girl - "My mom makes trains that are friends with trees." Moogie - "Your mom is an arrogant maladjusted little bitch that thinks she's all that because she took advanced calculus. Moogie took calculus too. Moogie could build a train but he's to well adjusted to get his hands dirty with pion work. Moogie might just fire your mom's ass when she gets the train finished." Little Girl - "Why is that man so mad??" Mom - "Quiet honey. He really could fire my ass. Then we'd be out on the street and starve."

So in your world... Moogie- All calculus courses are the same!!! Everybody took calculus and it is all the same. Moogie out. Engineer- I took 5 undergraduate calculus courses, and 3 graduate level calculus courses. Moogie took 2 calculus courses... but they were actually the same course he just failed the first time. Mr. Moogie may I respectfully point out that our Calculus experience is not the same?? Moogie- No you may not. If you try to make that point, in return I will point out that you have a personality disorder.

I was going to say the same. I remember juice as more of a street fighter... as opposed to the elitist Moogie... maybe they work together... kind of like Gus and Mike in breaking bad.

Moogy my friend, you are the one who brought up education. Not me. I just mentioned that MBAs are so f***ing stupid they don't realize that you can't patent the internet. I actually was complimentary to Lawyers... which I thought you said you were (I can't keep it all straight)... so this entire thing is kind of crazy. Moogy's pecking order... 1. Execs 2. Lawyers?? 3. Mall cops 4. Engineers?? My Pecking order 1. Mall cops/security guys 2. Engineers 3. Lawyers 4. Execs My uncle worked at Kingston Pen... hard core stuff... and I respect anybody who does that kind of work, even if it's in a shopping mall... keeps us safe... ...wouldn't want to be Moogy walking through the streets, or the mall without any security on the look out...

Sure I'm just being myself... I've taken four calculus courses... I'm sure tonnes of other guys on this board who are engineers or physics guys or whatever have too... If some idiot wants to claim that their 1st year "jr" calculus course is the same thing... then I'll call them out. It's kind of like Wilner claiming his analysis is exactly the same as JFas's.... Would you have us just calmly say Wilner=JFAS because they've both written articles on the Dickey Effect???

Engineers usually take four calculus courses. A harder version of calculus 1 (which is what you may have took), calculus 2, calculus 3 (ussually a multivariable calculus), and differential equations. That's just an ordinary engineer. There is all kinds of crazy s*** you can take after that. There is no comparison between taking a 1st year introduction to calculus and the multiple rigorous calculus courses an engineer, math major or physics major would take.

The dynamic I've seen more often is the suit asks multiple lego builders how much things will cost... the idiot lego builder (as in your example) is the one that the idiot suit gives a promotion too. If you promise things will be under budget you get the contract/job/promotion then worry about reality later. Just a generalization of course.

Missed the reference... You sound like a suit though... no offense. Suits are like anybody else good ones and bad ones. Problem is bad suits can do a lot of damage. Generally I found lawyer suits to be a bit better then pure "MBA" suits... There seems to be some pecking order I don't totally understand. When an MBA suit wants to pull distasteful s*** they always say "we'll talk to the lawyers about that". But the lawyers never really appear. They just take advantage of the MBA suit in the background. somehow. Engineer - "We have a lot of competition." MBA suit - "If we patented the internet we'd have a total monopoly, why don't we buy the patent from Al Gore?? Let's talk to the Lawyers about it." Engineer - groan... to himself (he's not really stupid enough to talk to a lawyer about that... is he??) Lawyer suit - "Interesting idea... I'll look it over, it will take me week at $350 an hour..." 1 week later Lawyer suit - "Gore doesn't really own the patent..." MBA suit - "Thanks for your help, it was worth a try, send your invoice to my secretary..."

I've read this board for years and I have no idea what you do... never met anybody who was a big deal that had to announce they were a big deal... Where can I get your book?? Is it better than John Lott's?? I wonder if Mike Wilner will write a book someday. Seriously though where can we get your book??

Roger suit 1 - The rif-raf on the message board says some guy JFas is a better analyst then our own Mike Wilner or our GM AA... I do not understand. Why do we have this Mike Wilner and AA. Roger suit 2 - Not sure, let's check out the show tomorrow, maybe I'll read Wilner's blog in between rounds of golf. (next day) Rogers suit 2 - it checks out... I only listened for a couple of minutes but the Wilner guy is sharp, put the fans in their places and told them how it is. And I read a bit of his blog, had some slick statistical analysis. Cool stuff.

Like a lot of people (AA) he's an ordinary guy just trying to earn a living. He doesn't believe half the s*** he says. His job is to make the organization look good to the cassuals. He's a glorified PR guy. In fact half his job is to make Beeston and AA look good to the other Rogers suits. Typically people that have jobs that hundreds of other people could do (with a lucky break), typically these types band together and make it seem they are unique somehow. Wilner, Stoeten, AA, Beeston are in symbiotic relationships and their main audience is the handful of people that could fire them. The Mike Wilner show is for suits at Rogers who will listen for 5 minutes a month to make sure that the old baseball team is run by good guys... that is who it's for... no one else. Ratings are secondary.

Statistically he's much closer to the young post meltdown Roy Halladay... Steib was raw. Walked more, struck out less. Pitched a shitload of innings as a young guy. He reminds me of Halladay a lot actually. Last night was like classic Roy Halladay, I mean I checked my phone at 8:30 and they were in the 7th. 93 pitch complete game? Works quick, efficient. That was what made Halladay Halladay. 250 innings with minimal effort. Stroman 2014 looks a lot like Halladay 2001. I'd imagine lots of guys have good half seasons. So I'm not getting ahead of myself. Obviously physically Halladay and Stroman couldn't be more different.

Beeston debates Bill James (moderated by Andrew Stoeten) Stoeten - (cool, hip) "Mr. James your opening remarks" Bill - "Very simply I believe in the free market. I despise politics. I believe in informed decisions. I believe in logic. In terms of baseball I believe in youth over experience. I believe in on base percentage. I believe in defense but it's hard to measure. I believe that 90 wins are good, but 80 is the same as 70 is the same as 60. I believe in guys like Xavier Boegarts and Mookie Betts." Stoeten - "Mr. Beeston your reply..." Beeston - "Mookie? We had a Mookie here once. He was fast. I wonder if those two are related...." Bill - (perplexed) "Last names indicated you might be related... lots of people have the same first name... Are you related to Paul McCartney??" Beeston - "Last names.... hmmmm... Well if last names are so important, may I ask if you are related to Lebron James???" Bill - "...ummmm... no..." Beeston - "I do think I just scored a point there.... Mr. Stoeten??" Stoeten - "Well played Paul (cool, hip, calls senior executives by their first names). 1-0 for Mr. Beeston."

This explains everything... Bill James (red sox consultant) on the economy... http://deadspin.com/bill-james-calls-for-revolutionary-changes-to-the-ameri-1595361407 Money quote - "the people being paid $300 million a year are merely exploiting power relationships within the company to take advantage of the labor of others" Paul Beeston doesn't earn 300 million dollars a year... at least I hope not. But he has never done a thing. He was a two-bit accountant who lucked into the Jays President job in late 89. There is a 5 year lag between when one takes over a position and one see's the results.... So Beeston's decisions would only come into effect... oh about 1994. Beeston took advantage of the labour of others (Pat Gillick and Peter Hardy among others) to gain political control over the franchise and destroy it.

Bell, Moseby and Barfield played I believe 0 games after the age of 33.... they had no OPS, because their OPS was like .500 or some crap at 32 and they had to stop. Dale Murphy and Pedro Guerrero were the best hitters of the 80s.... Don Mattingly too arguably. All had to stop because of poor performance by about 34... Bautista's age next near. Mattingly wasn't horrible in his mid 30s, just not very good for a steroid era 1st baseman (presumably) not on steroids. The others were horrible.

The next president needs to be an alpha male dog that will make Phil Lind or who ever pee his pants. A guy who will piss over the whole board room and make sure everyone knows who's in charge. "Sell the f***ing phones girls... and go hook up some cable kids... leave the baseball to me. Baseball is men's work" that needs to be the attitude.

And I'm not saying that AA should decide payroll. Just that he should be in the room when they are discussing it.... Imagine Pat Gillick being told he can't be in the room with the f***ing King of England types who make the big boy decisions.

Thanks for posting that and thanks for your insight. Man AA comes off as a coorporate egghead. Why the hell isn't he involved in discussions about payroll?? He is the most qualified to speak about the technical relationships between payroll and winning. f*** Rogers. If AA isn't allowed to be in on payroll discussions he needs to be fired right now. Not tomorrow. Not tonight immediately. What a bunch of Crony ******* non-capitalist right wing evil central planners. Put f***ing Rob Ford in charge. Rogers are the type that are crony dictators who "claim" to be capitalists. But are nothing of the sort. A capitalist would have the technical guy in the room when talking the cost of gears. This is insane. Holy f***. I just cannot describe how bad this is. This represents everything that's wrong with our society. AA is not in the room when they talk about payroll even though he should understand the complicated technical relationships between payroll and winning. Holy s*** on a stick. f*** Rogers. This is the biggest load of s***. f*** AA for not resigning. What a sad, fat, piece of s***. Any technical person should quit immediately when suits have discussions that need technical input, but don't invite the techies.

It was mentioned on the GDT. Have no idea what the argument was really about. Someone joked that Bautista wanted Sanchez in to save the game... I doubt any poster would have that info (or atleast that quickly). But Imagine if that was what the argument was about... wow... given how things turned out.

I honestly have no idea if it would be the right move or not. Of course if he could pitch 200 decent innings as a starter that would be better then 70 awesome innings as a closer. Maybe something like they did with Chris Sale. Another year as a reliever then make the transition. Who knows. Anyone remember Daniel Bard?? Anyway it's hilarious that a couple of other guys are giving you crap... like they know for sure he'd hold up as a starter despite a spotty minor league record as a starter.

There is only one Olerud363. I'm not sure I have any reason to post under a troll account... never been banned or anything. But I sort of agree with the guy... Obviously I see Beeston as the problem... not so much AA. Just how my world view has been shaped I guess. I mean AA has no testicles.. so I guess in the end he deserves to be gone for that crime. I had a situation with some business "associates" recently where some information was given that was flat out deceptive. It crossed the line past "marketing" to flat out lying. There was a "Beeston" type behind the situation. The type with that rare combination of incompetence and lack of ethics. I talked to 3 guys about it, all competent and good guys at heart. They all refused to go on record. They all conceded (very carefully) that the guy was a lying snake and the situation was bad. But mortgages to pay, kids to feed, blah, blah, blah. Sell out for a minivan basically. I always see AA through this lens.

Some reasonable guy - "... and you know I love this team Mike, you know I do. But I see the Yankees going for it. They get Headley and other guys, and I just wonder why we didn't do anything at the deadline??" Wilner - (long pause) (phony confidence) Nobody?? Are you even watching the games?? (long pause) (arrogance) Kevin Reimold is nobody?? (condescending) Now he wasn't acquired at 4:00 on July 31st. I'll give you that. (another pause, arrogance shifts to phony reasonableness) Let's be reasonable. Reimold was an mid season acquisition and a good one. So don't tell me Alex Anthopoulos isn't improving this team.