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Winning every game they could last year resulted in home court against the Warriors in the finals which played a big role in the team winning...wait what am I arguing here, again?
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There a guy in the Hall of Fame that is literally celebrated for his notorious use of spitballs.
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Haha, I don't know what out of date marketing companies you saw, but pretty sure it's a foregone conclusion that eSports will be bigger money than any of the big four, if not already, regardless of what they do. It's just a matter of what you consider a sport. I don't consider that crap to be sports so I'm going to put my head in the sand with that one just like the baseball owners.
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OMG the Astros were using ingenious tactics to try to win games. Time to send the whole team to the barracks! They are ruining the integrity of the game! Meanwhile there are teams intentionally trying to push for 120 losses in a season and that's okay. I'm a lot more offended at the Houston Astros racking up multiple 100+ loss seasons in a pathetic attempt to hoard draft picks in the early 2010's than I am for anything they did in 2017. Punish them for that.
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Raptors are getting healthy at the exact right time. 9 games in 15 days to close out the month. Only one against a team over .500.
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No it's not. The Astros were cheating to win. There was no guarantee that they would win. The lifetime gambling ban sparked by the Black Sox scandal was due to the players throwing the games. Also, there is no explicit lifetime ban policy on using video and banging pots and pans like a two year old that the Astros were subject to. Unlike Pete Rose who was very well aware of the punishment every time he called his bookie while managing the Reds. I'm a tough on crime right wing crazy person, so I would love it if you guys all became angry, reactionary lawmakers, prosecutors and judges in Canada. Drug user? 25 years imprisonment! Manslaughter? Life in prison! Murder? DEATH PENALTY!!! My utopia.
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LOL at the hoopla over Stroman. Almost every person would take that layup. But just the simple fact it's Stroman makes him look like a petty douche. Must be racism or heightism.
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I didn't say that. In fact, I kind of said the opposite. Saying it would be interesting to see if the blurred lines between what's cheating and what's legit become more clear.
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Gosh, reading this thread is so cringe. Criminal code links, Nazi comparisons and a whole lot of high-horsing going on. I'd like to see if you guys ever cheated on a test in school or cheated on a lover or used aggressive tactics to get a promotion at work. People here are generally in favour of Bonds and Clemens getting into the Hall of Fame but this thread is littered with asterisks and hoped bans for life for the Astros execs. Can't even keep consistent morality when it comes to baseball topics. It's interesting to talk about the story and the punishments. It's also interesting to see if the very blurred line between what's considered cheating and what's considered smart baseball in terms of technology and substances becoming a little less fuzzy. It's not interesting to see everyone call the people involved basically pieces of s***.
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Based on the punishment laid out and the tone of this thread, it feels like I should be offended. But I'm not. I am not offended nor upset at the Houston Astros sign stealing technique. You'd have to be one naive moutherf***er to think that this is the only time this has happened by using technology. This game is so ass-backwards sometimes. As if everyone wants it to be like how it was in the dead ball era. They deny roboumps and try to put their head in the sand when it comes to video sign stealing. But you can look at video all day and night before or after games to find out pitcher "tells". Steroids of the 2000's have outlawed literally the best pitcher and hitter of that era from the HOF and they were unquestionable HOFers before using. But any stories from the 1970's are overlooked...or 40's or 20's.
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General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
Dick_Pole replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
If it's not George-Bell-hits-three-home-runs-on-opening-day-baby blue then I don't want anything to do with it. -
I'm in favour of pulling back the unbalanced schedule. Playing four teams for half the schedule with natural rivals like the Tigers and Indians only 6-7 times is dumb. Ideally MLB gets two more teams and each league goes to two divisions of eight. Something like seven games each outside the division within the league, 12 within the division and 22 interleague games.
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Holy s*** what a pile on. SK's using a lot of words to not express himself that well but I get his sentiment. If the Jays are in contention in July, and Giles is a significant contributor to that contention, then the team should consider keeping him for the year. Any other scenario, they should consider trading him. And of course the standard if they can trade him to improve the team both now and later should apply no matter what happens by the all-star break. As far as signing him beyond 2020 is concerned, that is a completely separate issue from trading or keeping him through 2020. The OP has participated in the derailment of his own thread because his nerd instincts can't let this insignificant argument go.
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General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
Dick_Pole replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Another random thought on the old school. Tom Henke was apparently some kind of compensation for Cliff Johnson signing with the Rangers as a FA. An aging DH player signs off to Texas and the Jays get an MLB ready pitching prospect as comp. Like, "here you go out of a trash bin because we feel sorry for you that Cliff jetted your team". LOL we don't exist in a baseball world today where 10 Cliff Johnsons even get you a rookie Tom Henke with six years control in a trade. -
General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
Dick_Pole replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The Barfield trade was a few months before my time, but I imagine it took a huge load of balls to pull the trigger on it. I don't mind talking about the old school stuff. Now you have a bunch of computers and nerds on computers and nerds hoping to infiltrate baseball front offices with their computers. It's nice to think of the good old days with Gillick where teams were constructed through smart trades, rule 5 pickups and international free agents when the Jays and Dodgers were the only teams smart enough to do it. No nerds with computers. -
Sign me up. Toronto even has a lame chant for him saved from the early 90's. Moo0oo0ooo00ookie.
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General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
Dick_Pole replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Deaf people are the worst according to Russell Peters. -
General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
Dick_Pole replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
What's in Oshawa's drinking water that makes you like this? Oh yeah, opioids. -
General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
Dick_Pole replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Reading this opener ******** for Pearson (or in general) makes my skin crawl. I want Pearson's debut to be a 160 pitch complete game a la Al Leiter. It's time to treat Millennial baseball players like real men like they did back in the day. If he gets injured, he gets injured. That was just meant to be. Nolan Ryan pitched over 5,000 innings until age 46 running up pitch counts with all his stupid walks and he never needed a f***ing opener. -
General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
Dick_Pole replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The problem with this idea is that absolutely every other team will know what the Jays know if they try to deal him. Half this board can't get over the Donaldson trade. I can only imagine the disaster brewing here. If he's a fat lazy bastard might as well keep him and try to extend him at a low rate. A lowball contract backed up with data on how useless non-fielding players are might be the spark to get him into shape. -
LOL Love's days in Cleveland are numbered. I'll pass since Siakam is better than him in every way.
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Yes agreed. I think a lot of it has to do with baseball writers struggling with the idea that the HOF is supposed to be a very exclusive club compared to other sports. That, and they want to use it to send a political message (Bonds, Clemens). Omar Vizquel *should* be a Hall of Famer by NHL standards. But NHL standards basically rubber stamps anyone who managed to stay in the league 15 years. Guys like McGriff are a dime a dozen now but man a shortstop who wins Gold Gloves for a decade straight, that kinda stands out.
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As opposed to the majority of the millionaire high performance athletes in baseball who clearly don't care about taking care of themselves past age 32 and drink beer and eat chips all day. I mean, like, where does someone get the idea that Donaldson takes care of his body more extra special than any other MLB player? Because he's vegan? That's more to do with being a douche than anything. Plus we just had the Bautista example which throws this argument down the toilet.
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I really hope Vizquel can inch up every year so we can get a decade of raging debate over this. Like Morris. I recall a thesis for Blyleven that his vote total went up as the writers were getting more sympathetic to the new stats. Guess that's not the case with Vizquel. He being in the position he is in is simple. He's seen as the 90's Ozzie Smith, a tad lower on defense but also a tad higher on offense (counting stats, but not RC+). Therefore Omar Vizquel = Ozzie Smith. You can look at fangraphs stat sheets and JAWS and assess some random number. Let's say 55 WAR where above that everyone gets in on the first ballot and below that everyone is eliminated on the first ballot. But where is the fun in that? Like it or not, for whatever reason Vizquel has had a greater impact in the collective memories of baseball writers than superior players like Kenny Lofton, the CF version of Vizquel except better in every way, or Yankee playoff hero David Wells. Both of whom immediately fell off of the ballot. The curiosity of baseball.
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