saskjayfan

yep, I'm a dumn dumn....feel better?

our entire future for 2 years of Strasburg and he'll likely spend one of those on the DL...where do I sign up?

I never said the increased viewership in September would equate to increased dollars. In fact I acknowledged this. I said increased viewership over the season peaking in the playoffs would have an effect on future revenues where the team could charge more and you could discount those future revenues to come up with a present value of the financial effect of making the playoffs. A playoff team would also have higher attendance. I'm not going to belabour this point as you clearly disagree and that's fine. What I do find funny is that you're not a fan of the blue jays and yet you have 5,217 posts on a blue jays message board.

Why are you continually looking for reasons for failure. If we win, revenues won't go up enough and player commitments will get the best of us....but we won't win, because our prospects won't turn out, our veterans are over valued and every team is better than us. I get it....there hasn't been a playoff team since 1993, but one day the Jays will again grace the post season. Enough of the Debbie downer routine. Oh wait...you're a realist. The season is almost upon us...this is the time for optimism.

of course revenue is based off viewers per game. The price charged for a spot in the playoffs would be way higher than the regular season. You have contracts in place, but when they expire you renew at much higher rates when viewership goes up. Why do you think the CFL TV contract was 4 times higher when it expired. Viewership went up. 3.5 games back is a lot different than 3.5 games up. The games against seattle at the end of the season were drawing 15K. There's zero doubt attendance numbers would be up in September if the Jays made the playoffs. The playoffs would mean 20 million at the bare minimum in additional revenues when you factor in gate, tv revenues and merchandise. That's just a fact. If they won the world series it would it would be even higher.

you're probably right..but most thought martin was a pipe dream....1% chance is better than no chance.

Yeah the playoff gate has a split, but a playoff bound Jays team would have 40k fans per game the last few weeks in September, not 15K and the TV where the real money is made would have much higher viewership.

Ownership should be committed to revenue. Winning means revenue and a lot of it. It's a matter of risk reward.

I'm not sure looking at a 25 inning sample size and ignoring a 227 sample size is the right way to go. I'm pretty sure when players decline they don't decline that far in 2 weeks. It's more likely he just pitched poorly in that stretch. Shields is a valuable commodity. It's just a matter if the price is right. Ps bigbouncyballs...classic rant in the other thread!

5 for 110..obviously not...but 4 for 80 I'd think about it....4 for 70 I'd do it. I don't think it will go 4 for 70...but there's a reason he's still a free agent.

You don't know what it will cost to resign a 36 year old Bautista and a 34 year old Edwin and they aren't obligated to resign either of those guys. You're also going to have Stroman, Hutch, Norris, Hoffman and Sanchez which could fill out the starting rotation. That could be an extremely dynamic starting rotation on the cheap. The Jays aren't in that bad of shape. Their projected long term centre fielder and 2nd baseman are both going to making peanuts in 2017 as well.

Mark also relies on the catcher for calling a game as he almost never shakes the catcher off. There is no statistical measure for the ability to call a game, but Navarro and Buehrle did seem to have a pretty good rapport. Maybe it was a fluke, or perhaps his style of game calling matches Buehrle's skill set. Buehrle had pretty good numbers last year.

I don't want to part with anything other than money and or a mid level prospect. The idea of giving up a Hoffman for an executive is ridiculous. There have to be other qualified people who can do the job until 2018.

did he buy that car in Miami? http://www.x305.com

one...last year Navarro played through injury quite a bit and was still a league average hitter. You can't find league average guys off the scrap heap. How many 24th guys on a teams roster are league average? There were 70 catchers with 75 at bats or more last year...Navarro ranked around 20th or so on that list. Billy Butler posted a 97 wRC+ last year and he got 3 for 30. Smoak was a 77 wRC+. Navarro as a switch hitter late in games can help you in late game situations. He provides something. Thole isn't as good as Navarro. He would have been the number 1 last year. If smoak doesn't bounce back you have Navarro who can DH. I would prefer to flip Navarro for a quality reliever or for a prospect if they would use that money on a K-rod. I definitely don't want 3 catchers on the roster and that won't happen, but if Martin does catch Dickey and we had Navarro as a back up his hitting tool can provide some things to the team even if it isn't worth 5 mil. I'm just playing devils advocate for discussion sake. Some of you are making him out to be JPA. He's not. His hitting tool is pretty solid.

Really....you spend 20 hours a day following baseball and you need Zaun to provide analysis for you. If he makes you giggle once in a while, I'd think that would be more valuable. Him and Campbell are a pretty solid team.

Zaun is entertaining....what more do you want.

St. Louis lost Yadier last year....they did ok. Navarro is a backup at catcher and DH. If Justin Smoak doesn't bounce back it would be much nicer having a Navarro who can DH and catch vs Thole who can only catch Dickey. 5 mil is a little steep for that role so I understand trading Navarro, but if they don't it wont be the end of the world.

and where are the Jays going to be if Martin missed 3 months of the season due to injury. I'm fine with moving Navarro, but I'm okay keeping him. 180ABs from Navarro as a backup with Thole in AAA wouldn't be the worst scenario for next year. Navarro as a switch hitter on the bench could be a useful bat for late game situations. Thole as a late game bat option is pretty much useless.

The blue Jays could have hedged out some or most of the currency risk already. I have no idea if they do any currency hedging or not. They may do zero currency hedging. I'd be interested to know if anyone has some insight.

Walker played 6 seasons in Montreal. The big O was the worst hitters park in the MLB. No one adds to Walker's numbers for his time spent in the cavern that was the big O. His .ops in his final season at the big O was .981. The funny thing is, his home stats were slightly better than his away stats when he played for the expos. In his final season as a broken down 38 year old he posted a .989 OPS in St. Louis, a pitchers park and a .780 OPS on the road. His road numbers should have been better than his home numbers. Part of the reason for Walker's home numbers being better in the latter part of his career was due to the all the injuries he played through. Travel and sleeping on the road is hard on the body, but his home numbers were better for his entire career, not just his time in Colorado. Walker's numbers no doubt would have been even better if he hadn't had all his injuries. I remember an interview where he talked about winning the batting title in 2001 basically slapping singles around the last month of the season because that was all he could do. Walker played in an era where some pitchers he had to face were cheating and many around him cheating made his numbers look just really good. He didn't take things too serious. He probably did coast at the end of a few seasons where the playoffs were out of reach. I watched Walker all the time as an Expo and not near enough as a Rocky as we just didn't get the games, but he was amazing. He read the ball so well of the bat, he tracked down everything. He had a cannon for an arm. The defensive stats weren't in place like they are now, but for a board that talks saber metrics when it comes to a HOF discussion we focus on offense. Walker could hit, he could run, he could play defense, he could throw and he could hit for power. He was a legit 5 tool player. Some get hung up on compilation of stats, I like to look at what a guy was like at his peak more than the health and longevity a player had in his career. In 1997 when he won the MVP he hit .366 had an obp of .452 and a slugging percentage of .720. That year his home OPS was 1.169 and his away OPS was 1.176. His numbers were better on the road that year than at home. He stole 33 bases that year as well. To this day he is the only major leaguer to have ever stolen more than 25 bases in a season and have a slugging percentage above .700. Larry Walker at his best was Roy Hobbes. I'm biased as Walker is my favourite player, but if he had played anywhere but Colorado he would be in the HOF because his numbers still would have been fantastic, even if though they would have been less than they came out to be. Now he just gets labelled as a guy people try and ignore because of the coors field effect and almost ignore the fact that his defense was just as impressive as his offense.

Larry did everything well...can you imagine if he actually worked hard.

randy Johnson should be a lock and I'd put pedro in too.

i like war about as much as bill James. Zobrist is 34 and no one can anticipate his defence and offence could be worse next year. No one can anticipate Sanchez' statistics getting better and he's 22. One year of zobrist for 6 of Sanchez is utter lunacy.

I've never seen a kid with such dominating stuff get so little love from his own fanbase.