saskjayfan

This trade was absolute garbage. I hope they get 5K fans out next game. This team is unwatchable for the next 3 years.

we got a back end of the rotation guy and a prospect who won't be ready for 3 years. By the time he gets up we'll be talking about trading Vlad.

what that he wants to win...god...why would we want those types on our time.

should have just extended the guy. We have zero starting pitching outside of Pearson.

I wouldn't trade Stroman for Tucker straight up.

https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2019/07/27/why-the-next-wave-of-blue-jays-pitching-hopes-stroman-doesnt-get-traded.html Don't trade Stro!....he doubles as the pitching team psychologist!

stro extends gets traded july 29 2023 at 4:51 pm.

Stroman gave his all to a team and has stated he wanted an extension. We don't know what was said or wasn't said behind closed doors. Clearly he feels wronged in some way. You're saying the way you're posting that if you were in Stroman's shoes that you would sit idly by and wish the guys who are f***ing you over the best whilst screwing your new team. Get over it. If all you ever wanted was an extension offer and you read that they guys you want to offer you an extension are lying about engaging in one it might piss you off too. Try and see both sides. I know if I was in Stroman's shoes I'd be a salty mother f***er too. Yes, I'm sure you'd be mother Theresa..lol There is the possibility the offers for stroman have been crap and they legitimately are considering extending stroman, but have yet to bring offers to his agent.

I hear he's gone fishing with Kyle Drabek

Kyle Tucker's minor league stats are impressive, but not nearly as good Travis Snider's minor league stats were from age 18 to 22.

I’m pretty self aware. I know I’m annoying lol.

People have the ability to change their minds. Hope the reports are true. Extend the Stro show!

Boxy says you guys are annoying. Man I needed a good laugh!

Are you crazy...we have to be careful with our dollars. We don't have a lot of flexibility in a couple years. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/toronto-blue-jays/payroll/2021/

who said I wanted to build through free agency? I'm talking about retaining the players you draft and develop. The last 3 world series winners had payrolls north of 150..that includes the cubs and Astros. The outlier is the Royals who still had a payroll of 130. We are projected to have a payroll under 100 mil in 2 to 3 years. That makes us the Tampa bay Rays. If we have a player we draft and develop and can't keep that makes us the Tampa bay Rays. If we didn't have Gurriel, Gurrero, Bichette, Biggio who are all young exciting prospects who will be paid nothing in 2 years when a Stroman extension kicks in I would say trade and rebuild, but we have some quality controllable prospects. I don't want to push our compete window to 2024. What is our rotation in 2021. We have one guy in Borucki who seems like he might be decent number 3, but he could also be a number 5. Pearson should be here in 2021 and he could very well be a legit number 1 or 2, but if we have no one to pair him with he's Roy Halladay leading a team to decent seasons that fall short. I like the looks of Pearson and Stroman in 2021 a lot better than the unknown. We will have money to take on salary through trade like Huston did with Verlander or sign a guy like the Cubs did with Lester.

People expect Stroman to age well because he doesn't rely on velocity. The kid can spin the ball. A 5 year extension would mean Stroman is 34 in his final year. There's risk in every long term extension. Expecting Stroman to put up 3+ wins a season isn't an unreasonable assumption. He's on pace for a 4.5 win season this year. We really need Stroman to spill the beans on what he was looking for so we can have a real discussion.

so go through that free agent list and put a number by a players name that the player would deem fair and our management would deem reasonable. Having a GM that doesn't overspend on the surface is an admirable quality. If you end up having a boatload of money and no quality players what does do for a team. We have to hit on all the prospects we draft and trade for. We are running this team like we're the Rays.

This has been my thought process the whole time. We have to overpay to get free agents to come here and even overpaying guys may choose to go elsewhere. We have 18 mil committed to payroll in 2021 without a single significant piece even arbitration eligible. Who are we going to convince and pay to come here? If we can get Stroman on a contract that is anywhere close to reasonable we should do it. https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-free-agents-for-2020-2021-and-2022-c302396056 Who are we going to get. I certainly hope they offer Mookie Betts, Realmuto Cole, Bauer good money, but will any of them really come here. Syndergaard is 3 years away from free agency. Will we land him? Compete in 2022 or 2023 just doesn't do it for me.

3 or 4 quality pitching prospects that turn into one or two quality pitchers? Maybe we should just extend the known commodities. It would be one thing if we were carrying a ton of bad contracts and didn't have money to spend, but we have a boat load of money to spend.

How would you know? You're completely wrong. I can do this all day long man.

Yup

We don't use the term Shatkins for nothing. Of course Shapiro will have input and the final say.

Frazier's defense isn't so hot either...if we trade Stroman for Frazier, that will not make me happy.

Kevin Cash you sneaky devil you. I'm not sure if I've ever seen that. Kolarek pitches and gets the first out. Cash brings on Roe on to face the next batter., but Kolarek doesn't come out he goes to first. Then after Roe gets the out Kolarek returns to the mound to get the third out.....crazy!

Thanks for the memories Stro...going to miss you.