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Hopefully we start seeing guys like Bo, Tucker and Bellinger sign this week. Already in the middle of January, and ST is just around the corner! 😁
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Statistically, Andy Pettitte has a strong Hall of Fame case, highlighted by a career 68.2 WAR. In another thread, we were discussing several pitchers who deserve to make the Hall with significantly less WAR, which only strengthens his argument. He also brought rare longevity and durability - two traits I personally value highly. Pettitte debuted at 23 and remained an effective MLB pitcher until age 41, consistently taking the ball year after year. Are his numbers eye-popping? Not quite, especially when stacked against truly dominant arms like Randy Johnson or Pedro Martínez. Pettitte wasn’t a strikeout machine, and his lower K rate doesn’t jump off the page. He also benefited from pitching for Yankees teams that dominated the late ’90s and early 2000s, which undoubtedly inflated his win totals. And, of course, his admitted HGH use complicates the conversation. That said, his sustained excellence, workload, and overall value place him firmly in the Hall of Fame discussion - even if he doesn’t fit the traditional “overpowering ace” mold.
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This is why Barry Bonds should be in the Hall of Fame. MLB players have taken steroids and PED's for how many decades. Have they really made a huge difference in a players skillset? Kepler couldn't even crack a 90 wRC+ while on PED's. Bonds, regardless, was always a Hall of Fame talent, not because of steroids/PED's.
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Buxton definitely would be a nice target. Found a way to stay healthy last season and play in 126 games and put together a 5 WAR season. Even the season before, he posted 3.7 WAR in 102 games. Blue Jays have enough outfielders to rotate in and out of the lineup, where they can keep Buxton healthy and not really lose a beat. Buxton will be 32 and has been injury prone throughout his career, so I think the Twins can only ask for so much. I don't think they'll demand a king's ransom. But who knows. Another nice target could be Royce Lewis. Injury prone but huge upside. Wonder what the Twins would ask for in return.
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He’ll also be turning 28 this season. Looking at his career as a whole, he hasn’t been anything special. Even this past season, he posted just 2 WAR. Sure, there’s still some upside if everything clicks, but his body of work to date hasn’t given much reason for excitement.
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If the Jays do look to trade Berríos, they’ll likely need to either absorb a bad contract in return or include cash to make the deal work. Javier Báez is one possible option ($23M AAV for two more seasons) compared to Berríos ($19M AAV for three more seasons). That said, it’s not an especially appealing fit - a healthy Berríos is probably the more valuable asset, particularly given how quickly rotation depth can be tested by injuries. Nolan Arenado is another potential target, and his salary over the final two seasons is actually more manageable than it first appears. He’s owed $27M in 2026, with Colorado covering $5M (effectively $22M), followed by $15M in 2027.
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This current message board would be obsessed with Andruw Jones today. You all would be wanting Atkins to trade for him lol.
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Andruw Jones produced a 67 WAR for his career and was probably one of the best defensive outfielders in the late 90's and early 2000's. Shocked as a big advanced metrics guy that you are, you don't think he deserves to be in. Agree Edmonds should be in as well. He was also a better well rounded offensive player and finished at 64 WAR. Shouldn't discount what Jones has accomplished over his career though.
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It's a very deep bench, but I expect some regression especially from Heineman and Lukes/Straw. Also, don't see Lukes getting 438 PA's again, unless someone gets injured. Likely can project each of those guys for 1 WAR or less each.
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Yankees sign Paul DeJong to a minor league deal, in response to the Jays Okamoto signing 😂
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Nicholson-Smith: "Not a Lock" Blue Jays Sign a Bat
jaysblue replied to Leo Morgenstern's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Sportsnet needs to do better. -
Kazuma Okamoto and the Toronto Blue Jays are in agreement
jaysblue replied to Angrioter's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Nice, now go out and sign Tucker boom for icing on the cake haha. -
Bregman logistically makes the most sense since he can play either 3B or 2B, which allows Gimenez to stick at short, while rolling with Clement either at 2B or 3B (depending on the position Bregman plays). Allows Barger to stay in RF, and the Jays can roll with Santander/Lukes in LF, with Straw as another backup outfielder. Signing Tucker or Bellinger means that you either have to move Barger to 3B or you have to eat Santander's contract, unless you keep Tony around as an expensive bat off the bench who you try to find 200-300AB's for (covering for injuries, days-off, pitching matchups, etc).
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Nicholson-Smith: "Not a Lock" Blue Jays Sign a Bat
jaysblue replied to Leo Morgenstern's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Jays need to add another bat regardless, whether that is bringing back Bo or signing a bat like Tucker/Bellinger or Bregman. Need to at least bring in a player who can produce 3-4 WAR. After the World Series run they went on and spending big money earlier in the offseason on Cease, and signing both Rogers and Ponce, don't see why the Jays wouldn't spend money to bring in a bat. -
Yeah agreed. It kind of was the same with Berrios. Jays still went out and signed Ponce. I think if Tucker and Bo are both available, Santander won't stop the Jays from signing both.
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If Santander is healthy, he is at least is a 2 WAR player who gives you 30 HR's.
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Also, despite the Dodgers being an attractive destination for Japanese talent, if you're a Japanese player trying to make a name for yourself in North America, you probably don't always want to be playing in the shadows of Ohtani and Yamamoto.
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Isn't it the north east corner?
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Nice pickup! Definitely might be available at the end of the season and can be a BP piece or swing starter in 2027.
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I expect Cole to get there with a couple more 3-4 WAR seasons. He likely could get close to 60 WAR if he stays healthy. If Wheeler comes back healthy and not having lost a beat, he should be able to get there. He's at 41.2 WAR right now, so he's a little further than Cole and deGrom. I think if deGrom finishes in the mid-50's for WAR, he should be good. If deGrom does what he did this past season for another 2-3 year more years, that gets him to the mid-50's. I think the mid-50's for all these guys is the benchmark.
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Blue Jays Have Shown Interest in Yoán Moncada
jaysblue replied to Leo Morgenstern's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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Kurtz for sure. Shae maybe as well. Love that the A's are locking up some core players. They're not fooling around when they move to Vegas. They definitely want to contend right from the start.
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I think Felix deserves it. He dominated at such a young age and also for a stretch from 2009 - 2014 was one of the best starters in baseball. Sad his career derailed at the age of 29/30. As a young fan at the time, Felix was one of my favourites. Sale I think is a lock for the Hall. Like you said, if deGrom, Wheeler and Cole could string together a couple more good seasons (3-4 WAR seasons), they should get stronger consideration.
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Only downside is that it's not close to downtown Atlanta or the airport, so it's a bit of a commute. My recommendation for a baseball trip would be to stay at a hotel in the Battery or nearby. The Battery is a very cool and vibrant area before and after the game. A lot of great bars and restaurants, which is what really stood out to me. Truist Park as a whole - not sure it would be in my Top 5 but I would say Top 10 out of the parks I've been to so far. Haven't been to Baltimore, St. Louis or Pittsburgh yet, so maybe visits to those ballparks change things. Right now my Top 5 (in no particular order): Petco Park Oracle Park Coors Field Wrigley Field Fenway Park
