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One of Kirk or Jansen are likely traded. The Jays wouldn't have kept all 3 catchers.

I agree with Laika. At the time of the trade, the thought was Moreno wasn't going to make an impact in the short term right away, therefore Kirk and Jansen, who are proven, are more valuable to the Jays over the next two seasons. There was more risk with Moreno if he didn't develop into a solid starting catcher both offensively and defensively given the Jays window to contend. At this point, we're seeing Moreno hitting extremely well - yes most hits are singles but he's hitting .321 with a .746 OPS and that's with very little power to show so far. Alongside with his very strong defense in the early going. Imagine if he starts hitting for more power whether later this season or further down the road and continues to provide high batting averages, then he's looking like a real stud behind the plate. Varsho (who I still believe in) and Kirk/Jansen (I believe in both as well) have been awful to start the season. I expect all three to bounce back. Right now, the way Moreno has started his career in Arizona and if he continues on an upward trajectory, it's looking like he was the catcher to keep because of his long term potential and since he's making an impact already in the short term. So right now, his successful start + long term upside and Lourdes successful start are tilting the trade in favor of Arizona. Doesn't mean it was a bad trade or awful trade from the Blue Jays. As well, we don't know if the D'Backs preferred Moreno over Kirk or did the Blue Jays offer Moreno etc. If the Jays get 4-5 WAR out of Varsho every season, I'll take that. If Moreno develops some power and becomes a 4-5 WAR catcher, whereas Jansen/Kirk are only 2-3 WAR guys, then yeah not a great use of resources, though again we don't have a transcript of the trade discussions and who Arizona preferred so it's a moot point. Overall, the trade I think does need more time obviously before we declare a clear winner. Right now it's tilting towards Arizona but yes that could change if Varsho and Kirk/Jansen both get hot and Moreno/Lourdes slow down. Still a lot of baseball left and as well still a couple more seasons before making a final conclusion.

I thought they would have moved Tanner Houck to that role, but I guess not.

You gotta hope Varsho is a 4-5 WAR player every season. If he's just a 2 WAR player, meh Arizona wins the trade. Still very early though. Varsho just needs a couple hot weeks and his numbers could greatly improve!

I think some posters on here fell in love with Kirk too much last season and thought Moreno was easily expendable. So far, the Jays have got very little from Kirk and Jansen. While I still like both and still believe Kirk can be a solid catcher moving forward, Moreno is looking like he most likely is the best of the 3 moving forward long term.

Chris Bassitt - AL Pitcher of the Month for May! Said it last week!

I always feel better as well after you unload the intestines.

Padres are the most overrated team. They suck.

Alfonso Soriano: signed with Cubs 8 year/$136M contract - $17M AAV per season. 2007: 6.7 WAR 2008: 3.8 WAR 2009: -0.1 WAR 2010: 2.7 WAR 2011: 1.0 WAR 2012: 3.2 WAR 2013: 2.6 WAR 2014: -0.9 WAR Total: 16.3 WAR over 8 seasons, so averaged 2 WAR per season.

Haha I'm just joking. I watch Moneyball every Friday night. It's a classic. Giambi's WAR with the Yankees: 2002: 6.6 2003: 5.0 2004: 0.0 (injured most of season) 2005: 4.2 2006: 3.0 2007: 0.7 2008: 2.4 Total: 21.1 WAR total over 7 years, so averaged 3 WAR per season. Signed a 7 year/$120M contract. I mean we've seen worse longer term deals. Giambi definitely was declining with the Yankees but he was still pretty solid when healthy. Take away his injury plagued 2004 and 2007 seasons, he averages 4 WAR per season, so it wasn't at all a bad signing.

They should have never let Jason Giambi, Johnny Damon and Jason Isringhausen leave after the 2001 season. Fans didn't want to see Jason's younger brother Jeremy or an aging David Justice or a side arm freak in Chad Bradford.

Don't get political here haha.

Chris Bassitt beat ATL last Friday with Strider on the mound. Lets hope for the same tonight with Cole pitching!

Yelich has 9 SB's thus far and Noot has 5. But yeah in standard 5x5 leagues and if Noot's BA regresses to .250-260ish, Yelich is better.

I would go with Noot especially if its an OBP league. Younger and will put up far better ratios. Only drastic difference I see is Yelich probably will get more RBI opportunities.

Raptors are stuck in limbo if they bring back the same core. They're somewhat decent when healthy but not good enough to be an elite team in the East or to go on a deep Playoff run. Will be interesting to see what they do.

Would be so stupid. I don't think another team in the southern US would work. They're lucky Carolina and Florida have been successful on the ice or otherwise they wouldn't be getting anyone at the games. Arizona is already a failure. Salt Lake City, Milwaukee, maybe Baltimore.

Yeah that's true, both Halifax and Quebec would be way down on the list. Thought Quebec because they did bring the Jets back to Winnipeg and they've been a success. I think Quebec could work again since it does bring in a lot of tourism and has grown since the 1990s. I really think another team in the GTA would work. Heck even in Mississauga. MLSE and the NHL won't allow it though.

Guess who has been shopping Abreu heavily in the LOD? Hahaha

I hope I don't draft another Patrick Laine.

They should bring an NHL team back to Quebec City or maybe Halifax. The GTA could also support another hockey team as well like around Hamilton or Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge area, though doubt MLSE would want that. Also, a lot of teams too close to each other - TOR, BUF, DET, OTT and MTL. In the US, maybe Salt Lake City or Milwaukee could be options.

Imagine the A's.

If the Phillies are out of it, trade for Aaron Nola.

It's a shame Manoah and Kirk don't use it during the offseason or ST.

Best to tank for the next 3-4 seasons so the Jays can get the top draft pick and build a real contender!