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Jays number was 18.05m I think and Guerrero was 19.9m. So a big difference.

Im fairly certain that Marew and FrenchSoup are two people in one body.

Gausman is like the 2nd best pitcher in baseball the last 3 seasons and the best in the AL since he’s come over. It always amazes me how people sleep on him

No and I didn’t bother asking. I wouldn’t be surprised if we had an offer out on Teo and he ended up a Dodger.

On my end I’m hearing nothing. I’ve had two separate posters message me asking if I heard anything over the weekend as they had heard potentially a signing soonish. My source is presently travelling and if my understanding is correct they’re interviewing for a promotion with another org.

Im fine with deferring payments but the tax hit should be the full dollar value averaged over the contract term not including deferrals. A player with a team for 5 years at 25m/season with 22m deferred per season should count as 25m on the tax in my opinion.

Just on the Biggio thing I think if he was having a more consistent strikezone called he would likely have a higher batting average as he wouldn’t need to expand as frequently. I thought I’d read something along the lines of since his call up he has by far the most strikes called against him in baseball on pitches out of the zone. I know Schneider had a shitload against him in his debut as well and Belt had the same issue. It’s like having a good eye is punished

Just a standard water system in a parking garage. I’m new to the trade after working as a mason and they just needed an extra body to get the work done fast as it’s 2.5 hours out of Ottawa.

I have none, I was out of town all week installing a fire suppression system and my pal and his partner have been travelling for a potential relocation.

Sorry everyone

Toronto uses their own valuation in place of WAR it is more given to me in a context I’d be able to attach to data that I have understanding of. Tiedeman would obviously headline a package but who knows how Toronto internally evaluates certain players. I don’t have the math. It’s just more so they won’t trade him for a rental at this time and if they are moving him it’s going to be for a really good player.

It’s also worth keeping in mind how young Martinez is. Just because he’s bad at 2B today doesn’t mean he can’t become a passable one when he gets more experience. I actually had a pretty funny New Year’s Eve, we went to our next door neighbours place for a few drinks and I got to meet his brother who works on upper management with the Brewers lol. We didn’t talk baseball or anything but it was a reminder about how small the world is.

I know ok Vlad there were articles by Davidi insinuating the coaching stuff with Vladdy. I think it’s going to be interesting to see what happens with the balance of the offseason. I know the KK stuff happened really fast, Atkins called his agent as KK let the team know he was open to coming back at the end of the season and an hour later a verbal agreement was in place. KK and his wife love the city. I know the team has been looking for OF help and I think they still want one more whether it’s someone like Bellinger who can play all 3 OF and 1B which lets everyone get load management. I think it means if Belli does happen we would need a DH that can play a position.

Well here goes attempt two after I accidentally deleted the post. Happy new years everyone. I spent this afternoon hanging out with my pal and the actual source of all information. The biggest takeaway I had is the team is trying to work on a massive franchise altering trade, think something like 92 where you take from the MLB roster to add to the MLB roster. The teams preference is not avoid doing so but they're balking at the asking price on prospects, the TV deal fiasco is causing a lot of issues with trades and is slowing down free agency. Tiedeman is available if the team can get in his words "a 4-5 win player with 3-4 years of control if you were looking at FanGraphs". Interest in the Cuban starter is real, thinks the team has approached him about more of a bulk reliever or swing man role. Manoah and Espinal are both getting a lot of trade interest from teams. Teams like that they're under control and affordable. Teams view Espinal as an everyday SS for basically nothing if it allows them to drop salary based on their new economic outlook. Thinks Espinal is just a matter of time but expects the off season to stay as slow as it is. Manoah they're not getting fair value back so its looking less likely he'll be moved unless it's in a package. Team has ownerships go ahead to eat a few bad contracts if it makes the team a lot better and doesn't add to the payroll dramatically for 4+ years. No formal offer in on Bellinger but one was made on Chapman in November, not sure if it's still out there. They've asked Boras to circle back on Bellinger when the term, not dollar value comes down. Vladdy is working with Jays staff in Florida to correct a mechanical issue they identified in May that he refused to work with their staff during the season. Team has a lot of belief he'll rebound from 2023 but they were done with his stubbornness. They are hoping that now that hes a bit older he'll have fewer brainfarts on the basses and on D. Mattingly and Vlad have a good relationship and Mattingly was the one who identified the issue with Guerrero's swing in May. I inquired about a Guerrero extension and he can state the conversation has never even happened. I asked why and he says the team saw what happened once the team left MiLB parks in 2021, it was basically identical output to what he did in 2022, within something like 5%, which is a slightly above league average player. Team knows he is young, IIRC he's the youngest player on the team, so they're fine with seeing him put up some consistency. I did ask about prospects the team is high on and he said obviously Horowitz, if he could hit left handed pitching he would have been up earlier in the season. Alan Roden is the teams internal number one position player prospect - 20/20 potential, well above average D in a corner (likely LF), likely to hit for a higher average with a high OBP and run into a lot of doubles. I was a bit surprised and asked about Martinez and the team loves the bat but doesn't think he has a position, they're hoping he could do something like Dan Uggla and be an ugly defensive 2B with enough of a bat to still be a good (he later defined this a 3 win player using fWAR for public information). His defensive issues are throwing, he has a weird sidearm motion and horrendous footwork on the left side of the infield. I did ask about Barger and he is a RF, may still get reps at 2B/3B but but view him as a RF. Similar issues with footwork to Martinez but the arm is elite and plays in RF. Need to see what the bat does in 2024.

French I’m really glad you’re back on the board man but holy f*** do you need to just condense your multiple posts down to a single one lol

He wants a ring and this is likely the best team that had an opening for him to get decent playing time and him and his wife like the city a lot. My understanding is he left money on the table to come back.

I don’t think people realize how bad Espinal has been since June of 22.

New information as per my most recent chat.

Espinal also has lost mobility and his bat has sucked for 1.5 seasons, he’s a bad base runner. IKF was inexplicably playing CF for the Yankees last year and was playing hurt. I’d personally make the assumption that at the end of the next two seasons IKF out produces Espinal if they get similar playing time. IKF has a similar bat, better D and better base running.

People really overvalue Moreno. They look at his BRef and thinks it good but the defensive numbers are broken similar to how Lawrie broke fWAR when he first came up. Look at WARP where Moreno was worth 0.3 WAR because of bad framing, receiving and D or fWAR where he was a similar catcher to Jansen for value and Jansen missed half the year with broken fingers. Quite literally teams didn’t want Kirk because of his second half struggles and general build, Jansen they had health concerns with and Moreno they didn’t think the bat was going to come around enough to make up for the D. The original offer for Moreno was McCarthy or whatever his name is and that was it until the Jays added Gurriel.

I honestly think it’s going to be the Brewers but I’ve been told to keep an eye on the Marlins as well as the Padres. I think the team wants to add another OF who can also DH which lets you rotate Springer and another potential OF into the DH role while giving a lot of at bats to Varsho and KK. The team is really happy with the work Vladdy is doing in Florida but more importantly that he’s actually working with their staff instead of his own staff. He’s trying to find out if the Jays have made an offer to Bellinger but he’s certain that a Chapman is not happening as he’s likely going to get more than The Jays are willing to spend on him. Bellinger is a good fit in that he can play 1B with Vlad at DH and the OF allowing other players to rotate into the DH role to keep them fresh. They want another SP a 3B and an OF still. My buddies takeaway is the Manoah relationship with teammates is fine but with the front office and org is shot. He also trips me that the Jays have interest in Stroman and Stroman has interest in Toronto as he has family here and wants to be closer. He also says that the Jays are willing to take on a bad contract if the other team takes Springers. Sorry for the thoughts out of order, my son is causing chaos and with my ADHD I’ve lost my train of thought a few times writing this out lol.

I like the signing. Not necessarily the dollar value but he’s such a good defender at 3rd and can play SS in a pinch. Lets us move Espinal and since there aren’t any other IF on the 40 who realistically can play short it makes sense. I know someone thinks Bo may be moved but the rumblings that have come my way are expect something more like Manoah, Espinal, Barger, Dahian Santos possibly more in a package for a few players with control.

Chatted with my friend this morning. Apparently we do have another signing done at 2/15 with an opt out after year one. He thinks it’s Amed Rosario. Doesn’t know when it’s supposed to be announced but the physical is done. I think it’s IKF. He says he has not heard about a formal offer to Bellinger but we have put one across to Chapman. Team is working on a big trade but not for the usual suspect.

I’m trying to find a text or a tweet or something but a few weeks ago I thought I read that the Jays were likely to get KK again because another org wants Varsho and the Jays were open to moving him. I just can’t find anything in a short search so maybe it’s not something I read who knows.

I’d love to bring Grichuk back and sign someone like Pederson to DH against RHP. Let’s you move Springer to DH against lefties and run an OF of Varsho, KK and Grichuk or one of KK/Varsho, Grichuk and Springer against lefties if Guerrero needs a DH day. I think KK will get used like he was last year around 110 starts and 20 games as a defensive replacement or pinch runner which is 4th OF territory or the strong side of a platoon. Varsho likely gets used as an everyday player again if the bat bounces back. I’d rather spend 10.5 on KK than 25+ on Bellinger.