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  1. John_Havok
    Not optimistic at all really to put all three of those guys as future bench players at best. Just saying that IF none of them become anything more than bench guys, it’s still something the Jays need. Right now the bench consists of Tapia, Zimmer, Collins and Biggio/whichever other catcher isn’t in the lineup. It’s not exactly a high floor offensive group with plus D. Zimmer is plus D with a less than 0 bat, Tapia sux on both sides of the ball, back up catcher after Collins is gone is likely fine, and a Biggio is kind of a tweener. Good enough bat to be in there everyday and be moved around a bit from 2nd to 1st and RF/LF if needed, but his defensive skill isn’t plus.
  2. John_Havok
    I wonder why it's so rare to see the best possible hitting lineup actually in the game... order could be argued a bit I guess but those are the guys that will determine if this team makes any noise in the playoffs.
  3. John_Havok
    Having another Espinal around would be fine as long as the defense is elite and they maintain even a 105 wRC+ like he is right now. That's still a 3-4 WAR player. Even slightly less D and 95-ish wRC+ is a solid bench piece. Positional depth with a ton of bench guys is still important to ensure the floor of the team doesnt suffer too much when injuries strike. Even if Groshans, Lopez and Samad taylor (just throwing out names) never become regulars... if all 3 become average bench pieces that are even 0.5 - 1 WAR guys based on solid D and a non-limp noodle bat, that's not a bad thing. There's probably something to be said for having higher contact rate backups than more swing and miss/power guys, though you probably need at least 1 of those too. I'd rather see a plus D, slightly below average bench bat than Tapia any day of the week.
  4. John_Havok
    Yup, and only use 3 in AAA and AA.
  5. John_Havok
    Yeah, I think he’s trade bait for the winter though, not at the deadline. I’d be surprised if both Jansen and Teo are back next season. I could even see a Gurriel trade for the right return, though that’s far less likely
  6. John_Havok
    Why on earth would the 1b umps opinion on a check swing from a lefty even be valid? I get the minors don’t have umps all around the diamond, so…home plate makes the call and goes with what he thinks. That said, gesturing to ump with a bat like that is just moronic.
  7. John_Havok
    Of course…sigh
  8. John_Havok
    Including several takes on low and away sliders that he tends to wave at when he’s scuffling. Might be a sign that he’s finally getting locked in
  9. John_Havok
    Got to f-ing kidding me
  10. John_Havok
    Who said that? I’ll slap them until they are lucky enough that I stop
  11. John_Havok
    More horseshoe up the ass luck for the Rays when a guy who makes nearly no errors…makes an error leading to a run
  12. John_Havok
    Wow babiped to death.
  13. John_Havok
    Gutsy full count change. Beauty
  14. John_Havok
    Wow those hats they have Jamie and Caleb wearing….wtf
  15. John_Havok
    I was speaking more generally, not so much in the roster juggle sense. Moreno probably goes down as soon as Jansen is up so he gets more regular reps. It’s hard to imagine keeping his service clock running to catch 1 game a week and maybe DH another. The rest of the guys getting DH starts pretty much eliminates the long term 3 catcher idea when all 3 are worthy of playing time.
  16. John_Havok
    The 30/60 would never be on the table, that’s too much. Couple things to remember here, while he is a bit of a unicorn, he doesn’t pitch a full starters schedule and doesn’t hit a full hitters schedule and really doesn’t play D when not pitching. Therefore he’s not gonna be out there putting up 12+ fWAR seasons that he would need to be to justify that 60m per year kind of deal. His overall mark would still have to be in line with dollars per WAR valuations or it wouldn’t make sense. This year, he’s at 4 fWAR at about the halfway mark. Let’s assume he keeps that pace and ends at 8 fWAR, give or take .5. Is an 8 fWAR player in line for 60 million per year?
  17. John_Havok
    It’s not as hard as you’re making it out to be though. It’s very common for pitchers to have escalating dollar contracts based on starts, innings pitched, etc. same for hitters. Now, the entire contract couldn’t be built that way but I don’t think anyone here is suggesting that. Having a base salary of 30 million per year with escalators or bonuses based on starts wouldn’t be against any part of the CBA
  18. John_Havok
    Jansen is trade bait for sure, regardless of what Atkins says publicly. Actually, I could see all 3 being available in the right trade since trading any one of them still leaves 6+ years of catching stability.
  19. John_Havok
    But is he vaccinated? I wonder how bad the Jays are gonna get shafted by FAs, trades and draft picks in the coming years
  20. John_Havok
    He’ll adjust. Recently teams have really been pounding him with breaking balls away and he will start to lay off them completely. I think he just sometimes gets stuck in “I need to be the one to get the hit” and tries to hit everything.
  21. John_Havok
    And what a slump it was. He better be out of it now cuz that last month was looking pretty s*****. Now just need Bo and Teo to pull their heads out consistently and this team can go on a tear
  22. John_Havok
    Well it’s about time he did something useful. Nice!
  23. John_Havok
    Add not expecting to see Thornton throwing 97mph. When did that start?
  24. John_Havok
    Naw, he’s cool. He had some really good weed
  25. John_Havok
    Things I didn’t expect to see today: 1. My neighbour naked peeing on his lawn 2. Kikuchi pitching 6 innings and only giving up 1 run.
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