Grant77

If they see either as an everyday player then I suppose it's possible, but I'd prefer to pair onr of them with a guy who can play everyday like Pagan.

Signing?

What a shame

What is your case exactly? A good deal of that could be explained by BABIP luck. Also, hitters are better as a whole with bases loaded for obvious reasons.

I'm not usually a grammar nazi, but that one just bugs me.

When I look at Reddick I see a player in decline. I'm really not interested in committing significant long term dollars to a player like him. His defense has been a negative for two consecutive years now. To expect that to recover in his 30's is rather optimistic in my view. I watched him with the Dodgers a lot during Vin Scully's farewell tour and he was very lumbering out there. Maybe that means nothing, but the eye test supports the stats so I buy the decline. He's been a positive baserunner in the past, but he was merely neutral in 2016, and again that is a skill that I don't expect to recover in his 30's. I'm not interested in paying for past performance. I don't know what to make of the bat. You make some interesting points and maybe there is some more power in there. On a gamble like that though, I'd rather bet on a short term player like Bruce than sign Reddick for 3 years and cross our fingers. Angel Pagan his just as well as Reddick last year and is still a plus defender and baserunner. I'm not saying he'd be better, but the financial commitment would appear to be much lower. The same could be said for Matt Joyce, who actually hits righties quite a bit better than Reddick ever has. The defense is a little questionable, but again the financial commitment looks much more palatable. TLDR: Reddick is past his prime and is declining across the board. I'd prefer a short term option.

God like is a fair description. It wouldn't surprise me if he was one of the best ever (min 100 PA), but I really don't know. Nobody on: .261/.324/.353 (2267 PA) RISP: .317/.388/.442 (1294 PA) Bases loaded: .484/.505/.693 (109 PA)

So you like cheap guys that swing both ways?

Have you heard anything about when the general public might get access to fieldFX stats? I think that it would change the way we look at a lot of players. These huge year to year discrepancies in UZR would probably balance out in most cases.

If the defense is closer to average than the metrics suggest then he could be a cheap middle order of the bat. He was 14th in the league in ISO last year, which would play well at the dome. I'm not sure that I buy the defense argument, but I do believe that he's back to being a very good hitter. It wouldn't be a terrible move if the prospect cost is minimal.

It's fair to say that our front office doesn't agree with the public perception of his defense. There are things to like about a bat that slugs .500+ without striking out too much.

You played a bigger role in selecting the posters for last year's list than I did. It was about accuracy, not picking who was the most liked. There's a place for fun activities like this and serious lists as well, so I have no issue with what you're doing. Don't make it a pissing match with passive aggressive comments.

I think that would be better as well, but king thinks that including every list would get a better result, so let's give it a try.

The same person arguing with himself on two accounts. It reminds me of the Dogg and zee on the old forum.

Not set in stone, but probably in the 30-35 range.

Those are fair points, but Edwin and Beltran are far from the only options. There's Holliday, Moss, Napoli, Thames, Bautista, Saunders, and more. If Morales is giving us an ultimatum at this point in the offseason then we should have called his bluff in my opinion. I understand jumping on pitching if you see a decent deal, but patient teams are rewarded in a rich market for DH- type bats. You'll see a team or two get nice bargains on the bats I mentioned, I'm almost certain.

I absolutely agree. I would rather see us wait him out a bit more, given the abundance of options on the market. This deal would look better if we struck out on more interesting targets and signed him in a month.

I'm really not a fan of this move.

That's why I asked lol. Looking at the honourable mentions section, I'd be all over Pagan, Suzuki, Rasmus, Tazawa, Anderson, and Uehara for less than 1/6 as well.

Not interested in Pearce, Joyce, or Beltran? I'm pretty iffy on that much for Gomez and 5 years for relievers, but I agree with the rest.

I wouldn't mind that either, but our actions with JB and EE lead me to believe that a substantial FA signing isn't in the cards.

I think that we need to do better than Jon Jay if we make an addition.

I don't think it's fair to put the injury prone label on him. He's really been pretty healthy.

I'm certainly not against signing him at the market rate for a replacement level utility player. It's just that 2/14 is a ridiculous overpay.

Last guy I recall with a pitch like that was former Jay Robert Coello.