Laika

When North comes around he can tell you all about the merits of Brandon Drury

Cody Anderson is a must keep. I wonder if Swihart and Vazquez will share time.

1B - Votto 2B - Zobrist (OF) 3B - Wright SS - Miller (CF) CF - Fowler OF - Davis (1B) OF - Dickerson UTIL - Gordon BN - Santana (1B) BN - Walker (2B) SP - Arrieta SP - Salazar SP - Iwakuma SP - Wainwright SP - Hendricks SP - Iglesias SP - Anderson SP - Jimenez RP - Rondon RP - Papelbon I don't presently have a catcher and I'd like to trade for one, but I've gone with waiver draft options in the past like Riuz and Jaso and still made the playoffs, so not a big deal. I have a lot of offensive depth. Trea Turner also insures SS from my farm. I'd still like to add 3B depth behind Wright though. I like my rotation depth a lot. I'd like to find a way to keep Tommy Pham and possibly Wily Peralta. I am very open to trading Santana, Walker, Jimenez, and Anderson. I've also explored trading Chris Davis quite a bit. I should comfortably make the playoffs unless I get hit by a lot of bad luck.

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I don't think the gap between Hammel and Wainwright is that sizeable. Hammel has been excellent in Chicago and Wainwright just missed an entire season at an advanced age. Maybe it's more like SP3-->SP2

Trade! To me: Adam Wainwright To Boxy: - Jason Hammel - Ben Revere - Brandon Drury - Preston Tucker - Rubby De La Rosa

Yeah most likely. If Revere-Chavez were to happen, it would probably happen later in the offseason. Oakland wouldn't really want him unless spring is around the corner and they still aren't happy with their OF depth, and they haven't received an attractive offer yet for Chavez. Not a lot of teams in this day and age will be targeting a player like Ben Revere this early in the offseason.

Revere should have a bit of value even if Toronto doesn't eat money. Not massive value, but if he were a free agent this offseason he'd certainly get more than the roughly 16 million that he'll make over the next two years. But with Oakland being so poor and Revere likely earning a couple million more than Chavez in 2016, Toronto would probably be asked to at least eat the salary difference in 2016.

Relative to most, I hate Sanchez and I really like Chavez, but I still wouldn't do that trade. And contrary to what Anthopoulos thought during the Dickey negotiations, the possibility of someone coming with an extension shouldn't really increase their value. Revere + a bit of money for Chavez!

Grant'd.

no don't be dum

I like Ortiz but the HOF talk around him is ridiculous

It's also just a stupid article. "Did my team reset the market?" is suck an apologetic way to look at a bad trade. It's funny

lol, wow. good catch he also conveniently ignores any value for Asuaje and Allen and assumes it is negligible. Also, doesn't consider Kimbrel's talent vs salary at all (how much Kimbrel projected to actually be "worth" now and last year). red sox fan boy

It's possible for someone to be top prospect and be s***** at the same time. That's kind of what player development is - closing the delta between present skills and tool based ceiling. I don't know how you can look at his minor league peripherals and say that they aren't s*****. He walked like 5.0/9 in the minors and his K rate was pretty crummy for a prospect that throws 97. It was poo.

Yeah but what do I know? His 2013 looks worse now because it was part of a downward trend. Fair or not, the optics are different. When you're looking at his minor league career in total, it's step one down to starting pitcher irrelevance. In context it was just 86 mediocre innings in Dunedin. In hindsight it was the beginning of the end.

He's yours for your worst prospect

Wow, why would anyone give Romo away for a 2nd round waiver?

I think in the free agent contest I said Pelfrey would get a 3 year deal from some team like Philly to eat innings. If it's a one year deal and sufficiently cheap, and the team has already bolstered the rotation above him, and there are not really any other options, then yeah, I could be fine with it. I'm high on Trevor Cahill as my long-man #6 candidate. I did a list of similar targets a few weeks ago: http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/5700-Free-Agent-Pitching?p=800869&highlight=Blanton#post800869

Then I'll make you see - More than 50% of his MiLB innings came in his last 2 seasons (2013 and 2014), which were both very bad and not promising. So for the majority of the time he sucked. - Scouting becomes less relevant as you climb the MiLB ladder; statistics become more relevant as you climb the MiLB ladder. In rookie ball you can almost throw the stats out the window and listen to the scouts; in full season ball and the upper minors statistics drive the projection bus. - Sanchez is adored by scouts but once the statistics began to paint a more accurate pitcher of who he actually is, it became apparent that he was and is bad at being a starting pitcher. When the statistics began to really matter, he really sucked. He was a s***** minor league starter, as far as prospects are considered, all things considered. I don't want to say any more on the topic because I don't hate Aaron Sanchez and I hate talking in absolutes with sincerity. Anybody in the game can develop into a good player. He could still figure out how to start baseball games - he has some of the tools - it's just not likely, specifically because he's never really been good at it as a pro.

Just betting on the person. Wily is fit and sober. Still 98% chance he doesn't make it into the 20, sadly.

Just to be clear about my own opinions, I think Mike Pelfrey is terrible. I don't think he should even really be considered by Toronto and I agree that the talent gap between him and SP Sanchez isn't very wide. So maybe you think they are both SP5 candidates and comparable. I agree that they are comparable at least.

mmmmmmmmm no I need to make room for Tommy Pham and Wily Peralta. My boys. Unfortunately I might have to cut Preston Tucker and Brandon Drury and Rubby De La Rosa. Sigh.

I'm not pretending anything. I liked him a lot until the walk rate didn't improve in the upper minors and the K rate plummeted. At the time of the Dickey trade, him and Syndergaard were hard to separate. When he didn't develop, my opinion shifted just like any rational person's would have and should have. The shine comes off of a prospect really fast when they reach A+/AA/AAA and their K/BB is that terrible.

Ben Revere is readily available for a draft pick that I can flip for Romo. CF eligible and probably scores 130 runs in Toronto...