Laika

They are overreacting to his ERA this year Fangraphs has FIP etc splits for second and third time through the order

Probably but he's been surprisingly consistent if you ignore ERA

fWAR since 2021... Cease and Gausman rank #3 and #4 in MLB.

Cease, Goose, Biebs, Savage, Lauerios is wild

Wtf wow lmao okay Now sign everybody

The first step in having proper discussions here is for us all to admit that we are ALL massive losers. There is no douche and non-douche; no cool kids and uncool kids. There are just smart douchebags and stupid douches. That's it. Govern yourself accordingly. Try to at least avoid being a stupid Blue Jays douche.

The Blue Jays would be checking in on Marte for two reasons: The obvious one that everyone has said. You turn over every stone. For leverage specifically in negotiations with Bo. You don't want Bo Bichette's camp to think you do not have other options. You actually want them to think you can turn to other players - there are other signings and trades available. "Bo's agent is dicking around. Can we leak that we checked in on Ketel Marte? Maybe that will get negotiations moving again."

The cumulative negative value might be similar but the "other stuff" would massively swing it to Rendon IIRC Chris Davis was a good dude who tried and most people legit felt bad for him at some point

Juan "Soto" Sanchez I guess?

LMFAO

it's an interesting career choice you'd think he would just turn into a lefty reliever at this point, there would be an MLB track for that somewhere and he has enough Stuff+ on his FB and secondaries to make it work I suppose the team he is signing with is probably offering him enough over the MLB minimum to make it worthwhile. Hard to say no to guaranteed money when your signing bonus was $75k

I don't think he's going to be that athletic Maybe more on the Willy Adames (good) Paul DeJong (better than nothing) spectrum

Yeah it's nice to see. I'm losing faith in his hitting ability but hopefully he can become a SS with defense and pop.

Will Jake Cook be the first low power, pure CFer in, well, forever to work out for the Blue Jays? Seems like an archetype they draft or acquire every few years but never develop.

Nobody is talking about Bieber because he's not the topic of conversation, that's all. The question is whether it makes sense to bring Scherzer back or do another Scherzer type deal with someone like Verlander. Even if you want to compare their postseasons for some random goal-post moving reason, their playoff stats are not that comparable. Scherzer got incredibly lucky, Bieber had very normal luck and generally deserved his results. Maybe Bieber was helped out a bit by the good defense, on some hard hit balls, but that's about it. Look at the DIPS collectively along with the K-BB rates, then the LOB% and BABIP. SCHERZER BIEBER ERA 3.77 3.86 xERA 4.65 4.49 FIP 5.58 4.26 xFIP 5.44 3.99 SIERA 5.05 3.77 BABIP 0.237 0.321 LOB% 87% 78.90% K-BB% 8.60% 14.50%

Good system.

You can spin any narrative you want around three games He had a 5.58 FIP and 5.44 xFIP in the playoffs. This isn't rocket science.

Have you considered making better posts?

Springer - DH Marte - 2B Vlad - 1B Bo - 3B Barger - RF Kirk - C Varsho - CF Santander - LF Gimenez/Clement - SS BN - Lukes, Heiny, Straw, Clement/Gimenez Why not?

Dick Fitts = Jake Bloss sans TJS

Sonny Gray now gets $41M guaranteed for 2026. That's wild. Good trade for both teams, I guess. Gray has surplus value projected above the $21M Boston will pay him.

Bloss's stuff has not always been as good as it seems or as the scouting reports seem to indicate. During his Astros MLB sample the grades on ALL of his pitches were a bit below average by Stuff+. I think some other Stuff measurements did have the FB as a bit above average. His velo seemed to be up noticeably with Toronto in spring but he then got nuked in AAA and hurt. I think you can tell from his lack of minor league Ks at the upper levels, and getting hit around in MLB and AAA, that the Stuff needed lots of work. I think if he comes back from TJS and his pitches are more like his 2024 Astros versions, he's just a boring SP5, almost like Mitch White before he collapsed as a player. Low upside depth guy who might be able to finesse his way into bulk value. Never a playoff starter. If he comes back from TJS and the arsenal is a bit better (like it looked in spring) then there might be a more interesting pitcher there, maybe an SP4.

They projected as a fringe playoff team and he gave them 0.4 WAR, I think they were hoping to get 2 WAR and he might be a standings difference maker. That he ended up providing two good playoff starts is random dumb luck but yes it had value so in a sense it kind of worked out. And every other SP in the bucket last offseason other than JV was a total flop. Morton, Cobb, Buehler... Sugano... just looking at the 1 year geezers who got around $15M.

I don't think the Blue Jays front office is looking to re-roll on the Max Scherzer experience I mean the signing was an unmitigated disaster and complete waste of $15M until he made two extremely lucky miracle playoff starts, lol

I really like Imai but can a team have too many splitters? If you face Gausman, Yesavage, Imai in a row do you get used to the pitch? Maybe the completely different arm action would help. He throws from such a low slot, like 20 degrees. And his slider does the SAME weird s*** as Yesavage's where it doesn't move glove side. But from the opposite end of the release point spectrum. I would love to see them in the same rotation just for Weird Baseball reasons.