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    Blue Jays 2025 Opening Day Projected Lineup: Version 1.0


    Mike LeSage

    The Blue Jays are welcoming some new faces to Toronto this season. What do we think their lineup will look like for game one of 162?

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    Before we get rolling, I’m assuming good health and an unsurprising spring training for the purposes of this exercise. Taking the assumption train one stop further, the Jays open the season against the Baltimore Orioles, and based on their depth charts they’ll have a righty on the mound (probably Zach Eflin), so we’ll be looking at the Jays facing RHP.

    Lineup and Batting Order

    1. George Springer - RF (R): Springer lost his leadoff spot for a 44-game stretch from May to July last season, but he spent the majority of his time as #1 on the call sheet. He may have a shorter leash this year, but he’ll be there to start and he’ll keep it as long as he produces.

    2. Bo Bichette - SS (R): 2024 saw Bichette bounce around the order more than we were used to seeing. When healthy in previous seasons, Bichette has had more of a lock on the two-spot in the order. With the cleanup spot more solidified, expect to see Bo regularly hitting second.

    3. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. - 1B (R): Similarly, Guerrero Jr. has been a mainstay at #3. He's moved around some, but has batted third more than anywhere else in the order the last few seasons.

    4. Anthony Santander - LF (S): The Blue Jays’ biggest off-season signing has come to Toronto to do two things: crush baseballs and chew gum, and he's all out of gum. I expect Santander to hit cleanup each day that he's in the lineup. He'll get some starts in RF for sure, and rotate through the DH spot, but on day one, he'll be in left.

    5. Will Wagner - DH (L): Wagner can hit. There are questions around his power profile and what position he might settle into with the current Jays lineup – how many starts will Vladdy see at third base? – but he makes contact and puts the ball in play. Expect to see him get most opportunities against righties.

    6. Alejandro Kirk - C (R): The days of a three-headed catching platoon are well in the rearview now. The spot is Kirk's for as many games as he can handle it. How does 120 sound? If the pop from 2022 can find a way back, he might move up a spot, but he’ll most likely be shuffling deck chairs with the bottom of the order.

    7. Andrés Giménez - 2B (L): Another player we'd love to see regain his 2022 form is Giménez. He's here for the glove, but if even a little of that bat can come back around, he'll be great value.

    8. Ernie Clement - 3B (R): Maybe I'm getting a little too cute with the lefty/righty balance at the bottom of the order. Clement had games at all nine spots in the order last season with the bulk at six, seven, and eight. If he can get the K/BB ratio to swing towards a little more selectively at the plate he could move up a spot or two. He can also cover shortstop in a pinch if Bo needs a maintenance day.

    9. Joey Loperfido - CF (L): Dalton Varsho is expected to miss the start of the season after ending last year with shoulder surgery (stay tuned for timeline updates). Loperfido will get an opportunity to hold on to the spot until Varsho’s return.


    The Bench

    Tyler Heineman - C (S): Kirk will need the occasional day off and there isn't another catcher on the current 40-man roster. Heineman has been serviceable, if unremarkable, and has caught most of the Jays current rotation in his time(s) with Toronto.

    Addison Barger - 3B/LF/RF (L): In addition to the three positions he played last season with the Jays, he also spent some time at shortstop in Buffalo. Expect Barger and Clement to share the bulk of starts at third base and race to see who gets the hot hand first.

    Steward Berroa - OF (S): Used primarily as a pinch runner last year, Berroa can fill that role again while providing backup coverage in center until Varsho returns.

    Davis Schneider - 2B/LF (R): To say that Babe struggled last season would be a huge understatement. He put up a ‘perfect’ 0.0 bWAR over almost 400 ABs. His splits don’t suggest a platoon would help and the positions he covers have other applicants ready to take the spot. He’s undeniably entering the spring on shaky ground and could easily spend the year in Buffalo, but the 1.8 bWAR he put up in just 35 games in 2023 is recent enough memory that he might get more time to find that form.


    Starting Rotation

    1. José Berríos (RHP): He’s been the Opening Day starter two of the last three seasons and I expect he’ll get that honor again this year. Berríos has also thrown over 170 innings each of the last 3 seasons and he’ll be counted on to continue that workhorse status.

    2. Kevin Gausman (RHP): Even after a down 2024, Gausman is projected to have the highest positive impact from the rotation. He challenged for the Cy Young award in 2023 and if he can return to that form, he’ll be the ace the team craves.

    3. Chris Bassitt (RHP): Bassitt will be 36 years old on Opening Day and is in the last year of his contract. With the improved bullpen he shouldn’t be needed to pitch deep into games too often.

    4. Max Scherzer (RHP): The newly acquired Scherzer will look to close out his Hall of Fame career with an impactful season in Toronto. Hopefully his playoff experience will be something the Jays need this year.

    5. Bowden Francis (RHP): After his historic August Francis will get every opportunity to lock up a regular rotation spot.

    6. Yariel Rodríguez (RHP): Bowden Francis is the only Jays starter under 30 and last season was the first time he pitched more than 40 innings in the majors. Even if everyone has a healthy year (don’t laugh, it could happen!) Rodríguez is likely to get some starts as the other pitchers require a maintenance day or even a couple weeks of a six-man rotation when the schedule gets particularly cramped. Until then, he’ll be in the long relief role from the ‘pen.


    Bullpen

    Jeff Hoffman (RHP): GM Ross Atkins has said that Hoffman “will get the opportunity to close games”, but there isn’t a full indication yet that he will own the ninth inning. Expect him to get the most chances though.

    Chad Green (RHP): Chad Green put up 17 saves for Toronto last season and will be counted on again to be a reliable arm out of the pen. Hoffman’s addition likely moves Green to the 8th.

    Yimi García (RHP): Back with the Jays after a 10-game stint in Seattle following last season’s trade. Working off the theory that Hoffman is pushing everyone’s previous roles back an inning García is slated for the 7th and setup role

    Erik Swanson (RHP): Swanson struggled last season (a common refrain for the bullpen) and spent some time in Buffalo. Expect a positive turnaround and improved results.

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    7 hours ago, Jays24 said:

    Wow... why even play the games since we got projected wRC+ telling us we're good lol.  This offense is not good enough as currently constructed, plain and simple. 

    With a near 300M payroll, im hoping for more than an average level offense at best.  Maybe up your standards in life...

     

    2 hours ago, Jays24 said:

    Relying on projections for a guy who barely has any MLB experience is hilarious.  Hope the kid can become good but no real contender should be banking on guys like him in the middle of their order. 

    Instead their performance should be looked upon as surplus value as you have no clue what version of the kid shows up to Spring Training.  

    My eyes are bleeding, as per usual with you. 

    2 hours ago, BB17 said:

    I mean are the jays really actual contenders or even close?I don’t think many believe that. This is like an 82-85 win team that if they have things break right they can sniff 90 and get a wildcard spot. 
     

    They are likely better off going into the season and finding if a couple of these young guys can become regulars than trading for a bat at this point. Doesn’t really make sense to trade from a weak farm to go all in with an average team. Spending money in FA is one thing but you don’t want to sabotage future years in the process.

    I disagree with your first paragraph - if they get into the playoffs than they are contenders.  And a 90 win team is clearly a contender - the 2015 Jays won just 3 more.

    But I completely agree with your second paragraph.

    43 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

    I disagree with your first paragraph - if they get into the playoffs than they are contenders.  And a 90 win team is clearly a contender - the 2015 Jays won just 3 more.

    But I completely agree with your second paragraph.

    Im saying the Jays aren't a 90 win team though. They have a higher chance of missing the postseason than they do of making it right now, so I would say that is in theory not a contender? That 2015 team was like a 100 win team talent wise after the deadline and played to a pace around that after the trades, so I feel thats selling them short.

    I don't even think this Jays team is better than that 2017 team coming into the season. 

    17 hours ago, Laika said:

    They are very optimistic but it's easy to see why. 

    People love to throw Jeff McNeil comps in every lefty 2B prospect with quiet tools but Will Wagner might literally be Jeff McNeil if WW can actually play 2B. 

    Willy in the minors

    .297 .402 .441


    McNeil in the minors 

    .312 .380

    .444

     

    As a 2B, assuming he’s average or better there, I think Wagner is fine. It’s the fact that he’s assumed to be the DH with a near 120 wRC+ projection that seems way too optimistic for me. Hopefully I’m wrong on that. Davidi mentioned that he’ll get looks at 3B this spring. Wagner looking like even an average defensive 3B would be a great outcome for the Jays as that would make the roster construction a lot better (Wagner/Clement platoon at 3B), but I have my doubts that he will look average there. Maybe the Jays view him as a more of a bat first utility player anyway, and will use him as such.

    15 minutes ago, glory said:

    As a 2B, assuming he’s average or better there, I think Wagner is fine. It’s the fact that he’s assumed to be the DH with a near 120 wRC+ projection that seems way too optimistic for me. Hopefully I’m wrong on that. Davidi mentioned that he’ll get looks at 3B this spring. Wagner looking like even an average defensive 3B would be a great outcome for the Jays as that would make the roster construction a lot better (Wagner/Clement platoon at 3B), but I have my doubts that he will look average there. Maybe the Jays view him as a more of a bat first utility player anyway, and will use him as such.

    I remember reading that he does not have the arm for the left side of the infield. 

    Perhaps he is a 2B/LF/1B/DH this year and then in 2026, assuming he sticks, he is the 2B when Gimenez slides over to SS. 

    9 hours ago, Spanky99 said:

     

    My eyes are bleeding, as per usual with you. 

    Coming from a guy who literally just comments but provides 0 insights from his end because that would require too much thinking.  Your stance on this team the past few years is what made most of our eyes bleed lol.  

    20 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

    We're not getting another big bat.  Prepare yourself for that.

    This team probably isn't going to score a lot of runs again this year.  We might crack the Top 10 if a number of things fall into place, but I wouldn't hold your breath.  

    The promising thing for me is all the young bats we have.

    There's a realistic chance a few breakout this year and make an impact.

    Orelvis  Martinez - Scheinder mentioned yesterday than him, Ernie and Wagner will get a shot at 3rd base. Surprised no mention of Barger

    Addison Barger

    Leo Jimenez 

    Joey Loperfido

    Will Wagner

     

    Those 5 guys I'm hopeful they take a big leap this year. 

    Davis Schenider is also a wild card for a right bat vs LHP off rhe bench but... BIG wild card in my opinion.

    If it clicks for them though a Schneider / Barger platoon could be good

    12 hours ago, BB17 said:

    I mean are the jays really actual contenders or even close?I don’t think many believe that. This is like an 82-85 win team that if they have things break right they can sniff 90 and get a wildcard spot. 
     

    They are likely better off going into the season and finding if a couple of these young guys can become regulars than trading for a bat at this point. Doesn’t really make sense to trade from a weak farm to go all in with an average team. Spending money in FA is one thing but you don’t want to sabotage future years in the process.

    I think you are underestimating how mediocre the American League is in general right now. It took all of 86 wins to qualify for a wild card spot last season, and I don't expect that to change dramatically this season.

    1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

    Coming from a guy who literally just comments but provides 0 insights from his end because that would require too much thinking.  Your stance on this team the past few years is what made most of our eyes bleed lol.  

    Don't pretend you've been offering up some sort of succinct analysis vs a steady stream of whining.

    1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

    Coming from a guy who literally just comments but provides 0 insights from his end because that would require too much thinking.  Your stance on this team the past few years is what made most of our eyes bleed lol.  

    His comment provided about the same level of insight as your two, in much fewer words. 

    I know the childish back and forth between posters is ugly and unattractive but when you come in and essentially just say "I don't like projection systems" in way more words, people are going to roll their eyes at you. 

    This message board has never had a ton of patience for people who are aggressively anti-sabermetric and I don't think that is going to all of a sudden change. 

    39 minutes ago, Laika said:

    His comment provided about the same level of insight as your two, in much fewer words. 

    I know the childish back and forth between posters is ugly and unattractive but when you come in and essentially just say "I don't like projection systems" in way more words, people are going to roll their eyes at you. 

    This message board has never had a ton of patience for people who are aggressively anti-sabermetric and I don't think that is going to all of a sudden change. 

    There's being anti sabermetrics and then there's blindly relying on them to base all your conclusions on.  This was a guy who said Kirk was a better baserunner than Moreno because a metric told him so.  

    And literally all the back and forth begins with him starting the childish remarks, there's a thumbs down feature if you don't agree with someone.   There's many who have disagreed with vast majority who were backing the moves made by this front office the past few years but you don't see us name calling unprovoked.  

    My comment here was simple, relying on Wagner's projections who has very little MLB experience is probably fools gold.  Any "whining" from my end are areas that I would like to team to improve so they can become a true contender, that's all.  

    1 hour ago, max silver said:

    Don't pretend you've been offering up some sort of succinct analysis vs a steady stream of whining.

    What you see as whining are major areas of concerns being raised as to why this team will not perform as we all want, just like the past few years where some of us have been proactively calling out. 

    This is how you avoid providing hindsight analysis like most of you have been doing this offseason.  Many of us saw this franchise trending downwards and weren't ok with staying quiet lol.  

    12 hours ago, Jays24 said:

    There's being anti sabermetrics and then there's blindly relying on them to base all your conclusions on.  This was a guy who said Kirk was a better baserunner than Moreno because a metric told him so.   

    Nice hyperbole bud, I said Kirk's s***** baserunning was better than Moreno at the time. Newsflash; Moreno isn't a good baserunner, man. He's a terrible baserunner and has no power to be seen. This news is old hat.
     

    I don't see what you think is funny?




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