White Sox (Kay) vs Blue Jays (Miles): 7/17/26, 7:15pm

[Olerud363.354]

4 hours ago, glory said:

pivot to 2027 (or whenever the players and owners agree to have a season).

This is why you consider trading Clement and Rogers.   Are we aiming for 2027?  2028?  A 2027 half season?

If the latter do you roll with the half season?  Or just totally tank the half season and concentrate on 2028? (like the Red Sox and Orioles kind of tanked the Covid season, and got good draft positions and international money for only 2 months of pain). 

[Olerud363.354]

1 hour ago, SeranthonySantander said:

Vlad for Soto but we also take on that Bichette contract.  Even swap.

Soto - projected .300 .400 .550 6 WAR a year for 12 years paid 600 million worth 700 million

Vlad - projected .240 .320 .290 -2 WAR a year for 14 years paid 500 million worth -300 million

The value difference of Soto and Vlad is probably 1 billion doillars. 

[Olerud363.354]

Just now, Olerud363.354 said:

Soto - projected .300 .400 .550 6 WAR a year for 12 years paid 600 million worth 700 million

Vlad - projected .240 .320 .290 -2 WAR a year for 14 years paid 500 million worth -300 million

The value difference of Soto and Vlad is probably 1 billion doillars. 

Trade would have to be

Jays get - Soto, Bichette

Mets get - Vlad, Varland, Cease, Nimalla, Parker, the other Parker, King, Perry, Bullard, Keys, 1 billion US dollars, 1 million international bonus money.  

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Valenzuela on the bench today after hitting a HR last night. Ridiculous. 

Need to keep his bat in the lineup as much as possible. 

He’s a rookie, needs to earn his place. 
 

Or something 

[Olerud363.354]

1 hour ago, Stangstag said:

He’s a rookie, needs to earn his place. 
 

Or something 

It's like Cito's 94-97 Jays without 2 World Series wins to give him rope...

Last in walks, last in on base percentage, only an injury could stop Lenyn Sosa, 

[glory]

2 hours ago, Stangstag said:

He’s a rookie, needs to earn his place. 
 

Or something 

Valenzuela had the highest wRC+ and WAR on the team when Kirk came back. I believe last night was the first time JS even tried to have both catchers in the lineup. JS absolutely loves veterans though, so that's probably part of the equation.