Marlins (Alcantara) vs Blue Jays (Fisher): 5/26/26, 7:07pm

[jaysblue]

8 hours ago, JaysForever said:

If the Marlins would like to give us back Otto Lopez it would be much appreciated.

Otto and Xavier both off to fantastic starts this season. Likely NL All-Stars this summer. 

[Stangstag]

8 hours ago, JaysForever said:

If the Marlins would like to give us back Otto Lopez it would be much appreciated.

Kinda funny he was DFA’d and then a year later the Jays go out and get Gimenez who is basically the same player but costs 20mil a year

[John_Havok]

2 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Otto and Xavier both off to fantastic starts this season. Likely NL All-Stars this summer. 

xwOBA roughly the same as last year. he's a 2 WAR SS currently riding the babip dragon. Regression is near. 

Same as Espinal's hot start all those years back that fueled him undeservedly to the AS game

[max silver]

16 hours ago, G-Snarls said:

Worst lineup of the year? Probably

It's funny how baseball works sometimes. I recall there were plenty of times last season where it looked like Schneider was creating the worst possible lineup on possible and the team enjoyed an offensive explosion. 

[max silver]

3 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

xwOBA roughly the same as last year. he's a 2 WAR SS currently riding the babip dragon. Regression is near. 

Same as Espinal's hot start all those years back that fueled him undeservedly to the AS game

This is kind of unfair. Last season Lopez underperformed his xwOBA by 35 points. Simply normalizing that would have placed him closer to the 115-120 wrC+ range and if he were to produce that kind of offensive output to go with solid short stop play he's like still a 4-5 win short stop even with some regression. 

[John_Havok]

15 minutes ago, max silver said:

This is kind of unfair. Last season Lopez underperformed his xwOBA by 35 points. Simply normalizing that would have placed him closer to the 115-120 wrC+ range and if he were to produce that kind of offensive output to go with solid short stop play he's like still a 4-5 win short stop even with some regression. 

I doubt that very much. He may have underperformed last year, but he's way over performing this year. K rate higher, walk rate lower, ISO up by 20 points, SLG up by about 100. 

I'm just saying his hot start is not some new normal. He's a really good defensive SS having a good few months. We saw Gimenez so the same just last year before falling back to his "normal" Granted, Otto's offensive normal is probably higher than Gimenez's

[max silver]

1 minute ago, John_Havok said:

I doubt that very much. He may have underperformed last year, but he's way over performing this year. K rate higher, walk rate lower, ISO up by 20 points, SLG up by about 100. 

I'm just saying his hot start is not some new normal. He's a really good defensive SS having a good few months. We saw Gimenez so the same just last year before falling back to his "normal" Granted, Otto's offensive normal is probably higher than Gimenez's

This stinks of confirmation bias. If Otto's results simply line up with the expected statistics that places him in the 115-120 wRC+ range. This is a player with an xBA .288 of and an xSLG of .450 which is a very solid combination of average and slug. Yes he's seemingly getting a little lucky with the results but the underlying numbers are still very solid. He'll need to prove that he can continue to produce over a full season but he's already produced for a far longer period than Gimenez managed a season ago as that only lasted a week or two.

[Orgfiller]

10 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

I'm actually shocked Nolan Ryan isn't Top 3 all-time in HBP's.  He's 15th, behind Roger Clemens. I wouldn't have guessed that.  Roger had a temper, but he also had good control.  

Ryan was incredible, but he was very wild.  

Charlie Morton is 5th all-time in like half the innings of most of the too guys.  Randy Johnson is 6th all-time.  He must have hit a metric f*ckton early in his career, because he has great control for the last 2/3's of that amazing career.

You can see he was still hitting guys pretty often late in his career even after he solidified himself as a good starter. My guess is the backdoor breaking ball was clipping a lot of lefties' feet when he was aiming for the dead zone location.

[Governator]

Getting hit by Nolan Ryan in the 80s when batter's gear was nothing more than a toy helmet would have really sucked.

[Brownie19]

56 minutes ago, Governator said:

Getting hit by Nolan Ryan in the 80s when batter's gear was nothing more than a toy helmet would have really sucked.

How do you think it felt in the 60's?  LOL

Dude pitched in 4 different decades!  That's insane.