Non-Jays Division Series GDT

[G-Snarls]

Tigers suck

Can't even win the Skubal game cause getting shut out 

[Jonn]

Tigers just tied it in the 8th off that amazing Mariners bullpen. Brand new game.

[G-Snarls]

Well Holy s*** 

[Jonn]

Skulbal is still in the game at 97 pitches. Interested to see if they bring him back for the 8th or go to the pen.. He's been great outside of seeing Polanco.

[hanton]

both Brash and Finnegan pitching back to back, Varland will be fine

[Jonn]

And the Tigers give it right back... Honestly I would have rode Skubal longer.

[CJ-Freeway]

8 minutes ago, Jonn said:

Tigers just tied it in the 8th off that amazing Mariners bullpen. Brand new game.

Finnegan gave it right back lol

[hanton]

2 minutes ago, hanton said:

both Brash and Finnegan pitching back to back, Varland will be fine

and both gave up runs so what's your point?  lol

[Jonn]

2 minutes ago, hanton said:

and both gave up runs so what's your point?  lol

Bro did you just quote yourself?

[Jonn]

I feel like I have never seen Munoz pitch bad ever.

[Masterbather]

Massive missed opportunity by the Tigers. With a one game lead and Skubal on the mound. They need to win his starts.

[Jonn]

Series is going to Detroit 1-1. I feel like people thought the Tigers would lose Game 1 and win the Skubal start but apparently not. Either way they stole the one they needed in Seattle and they go home to Detroit where the Mariners aren't a very good road team. Thinking this series goes 5 for sure though.

[SeranthonySantander]

The thing that scares me about if we did somehow win a World Series.  I read dodgers stuff online all the time and they are upset all the time just like every other fan base.  So really a World Series buys you a month of excitement during playoffs and a couple weeks of basking in the win.  Then back to misery and thinking they are entitled to a World Series the next year and every year after that.  Same deal with Astros fans, they are miserable despite basically a decade of success.

[hanton]

39 minutes ago, Jonn said:

Bro did you just quote yourself?

Yes lol

[hanton]

16 minutes ago, SeranthonySantander said:

The thing that scares me about if we did somehow win a World Series.  I read dodgers stuff online all the time and they are upset all the time just like every other fan base.  So really a World Series buys you a month of excitement during playoffs and a couple weeks of basking in the win.  Then back to misery and thinking they are entitled to a World Series the next year and every year after that.  Same deal with Astros fans, they are miserable despite basically a decade of success.

Winning culture.  That's what the Dodgers have - the goal every spring is to win the WS. Period.  Losing becomes unacceptable.

[Masterbather]

15 minutes ago, hanton said:

Winning culture.  That's what the Dodgers have - the goal every spring is to win the WS. Period.  Losing becomes unacceptable.

I'm sorry but I have to call horse s***. 

It's really easy when you have, by miles, the highest payroll and you are a preferred destination for several reasons that are beyond most anyone else's control.

I'd love to see them have a "winning culture" if their team moved to Oklahoma or some s***. 

I'm infinitely more impressed by teams like Tampa Bay. There's little real talent in what the Dodgers do.

[hanton]

3 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

I'm sorry but I have to call horse s***. 

It's really easy when you have, by miles, the highest payroll and you are a preferred destination for several reasons that are beyond most anyone else's control.

I'd love to see them have a "winning culture" if their team moved to Oklahoma or some s***. 

I'm infinitely more impressed by teams like Tampa Bay. There's little real talent in what the Dodgers do.

best development system in the majors bro....a few years old but last I checked they had the best war for homegrown talent; not sure what it is now I'd have to check

[SeranthonySantander]

22 minutes ago, hanton said:

Winning culture.  That's what the Dodgers have - the goal every spring is to win the WS. Period.  Losing becomes unacceptable.

Yea I guess, I don't think necessarily they have a better fan experience than say the Jays or Redsox who win sometimes but not a lot.  

When they win, I'm sure it doesn't feel as good when your payroll is double most other teams.

They are more bitter and disappointed when they don't win.  If you won all the time, the same excitement isn't there because it's just expected.  What's the point in watching when the threat of heartbreak isn't an inch away.

And still, it isn't working out for the yankees or mets who are trying to do the same thing.

[Masterbather]

37 minutes ago, hanton said:

best development system in the majors bro....a few years old but last I checked they had the best war for homegrown talent; not sure what it is now I'd have to check

Yeah but that's also a matter of money. Would they still be geniuses if they had the resources of even a middle of the road team? 

I'm just saying I respect the whole idea of winning culture more when it's not coming from the Dodgers or the Yankees or an obvious massive market with massive advantages and resources. 

I have a lot more respect for St Louis for instance for the years that they've been excellent.

[hanton]

32 minutes ago, SeranthonySantander said:

Yea I guess, I don't think necessarily they have a better fan experience than say the Jays or Redsox who win sometimes but not a lot.  

When they win, I'm sure it doesn't feel as good when your payroll is double most other teams.

They are more bitter and disappointed when they don't win.  If you won all the time, the same excitement isn't there because it's just expected.  What's the point in watching when the threat of heartbreak isn't an inch away.

And still, it isn't working out for the yankees or mets who are trying to do the same thing.

Pages, Will Smith, Sheehan and Kershaw are home grown, Muncy was developed at the major league level so essentially also home grown.  The rest yea either bought or acquired via trade.    Losing is no fun so I don't get what the issue is?   the culture spills over, fans get excited and they too expect to win 

[SeranthonySantander]

8 minutes ago, hanton said:

Pages, Will Smith, Sheehan and Kershaw are home grown, Muncy was developed at the major league level so essentially also home grown.  The rest yea either bought or acquired via trade.    Losing is no fun so I don't get what the issue is?   the culture spills over, fans get excited and they too expect to win 

Ohtani was ours

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, Jonn said:

Bro did you just quote yourself?

Lmfao

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, SeranthonySantander said:

The thing that scares me about if we did somehow win a World Series.  I read dodgers stuff online all the time and they are upset all the time just like every other fan base.  So really a World Series buys you a month of excitement during playoffs and a couple weeks of basking in the win.  Then back to misery and thinking they are entitled to a World Series the next year and every year after that.  Same deal with Astros fans, they are miserable despite basically a decade of success.

lol... so the goal is to not win the World Series? Give me 6 of what you're having man... 🤪

[jaysblue]

5 hours ago, hanton said:

Pages, Will Smith, Sheehan and Kershaw are home grown, Muncy was developed at the major league level so essentially also home grown.  The rest yea either bought or acquired via trade.    Losing is no fun so I don't get what the issue is?   the culture spills over, fans get excited and they too expect to win 

Add Walker Buehler, and Dustin May to that list, who both had some good seasons before getting hurt. Justin Wrobleski looks like he could be a solid arm. Bobby Miller might still have time to figure things out. Some BP arms like Alex Vesia, Jack Dreyer, Ben Casparius, all who were above 1 WAR this season. 

Other guys who were home grown (now I'm going back): Matt Kemp, Chad Billingsley, Jonathan Braxton, Russell Martin, Andre Ethier, Kenley Jansen, 

[mphenhef]

8 hours ago, Masterbather said:

Massive missed opportunity by the Tigers. With a one game lead and Skubal on the mound. They need to win his starts.

I am ok with this.  We want this series to go 5...get Skubal/Kirby pitching again before the ALCS

[mphenhef]

8 hours ago, SeranthonySantander said:

Yea I guess, I don't think necessarily they have a better fan experience than say the Jays or Redsox who win sometimes but not a lot.  

When they win, I'm sure it doesn't feel as good when your payroll is double most other teams.

They are more bitter and disappointed when they don't win.  If you won all the time, the same excitement isn't there because it's just expected.  What's the point in watching when the threat of heartbreak isn't an inch away.

And still, it isn't working out for the yankees or mets who are trying to do the same thing.

I was pretty damn excited in 1993 when Joe touched them all despite having won the previous year and having the highest payroll in the league!

[mphenhef]

1 hour ago, jaysblue said:

 

Other guys who were home grown (now I'm going back): Matt Kemp, Chad Billingsley, Jonathan Braxton, Russell Martin, Andre Ethier, Kenley Jansen, 

Cody Bellinger, Corey Seager

[hanton]

4 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Add Walker Buehler, and Dustin May to that list, who both had some good seasons before getting hurt. Justin Wrobleski looks like he could be a solid arm. Bobby Miller might still have time to figure things out. Some BP arms like Alex Vesia, Jack Dreyer, Ben Casparius, all who were above 1 WAR this season. 

Other guys who were home grown (now I'm going back): Matt Kemp, Chad Billingsley, Jonathan Braxton, Russell Martin, Andre Ethier, Kenley Jansen, 

I only listed players on the current roster, so on top of what you posted....

Vargas

Busch

Mckinstry

Bellinger

Seager

Outman

Chris Taylor & Justin Turner (same as Muncy, major league devlepment)

[hanton]

11 hours ago, Masterbather said:

Yeah but that's also a matter of money. Would they still be geniuses if they had the resources of even a middle of the road team? 

I'm just saying I respect the whole idea of winning culture more when it's not coming from the Dodgers or the Yankees or an obvious massive market with massive advantages and resources. 

I have a lot more respect for St Louis for instance for the years that they've been excellent.

mets

[Governator]

I want Mariners through, I'd love to see the Jays fans on the West coast get a chance to see a postseason game and more than that turn the road games into home games for us.  I guess plenty would make the trip to Detroit as well..... but it's Detroit.