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Grant77

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I am by no means pretending to be an expert on this, but I'm willing to update this table as people post information. I recall that we can be 5% over without incurring draft penalties. I included that in a second column at the bottom. I also think there's a certain amount we can spend in rounds 11-20 without it counting towards our draft pool (150K). Like I said, I'm not an expert, but I'll update the table and we'll see how it goes.

 
Round Name Slot Amount Signing Bonus Difference
1 Jojo Parker 6,813,600 6,197,500 616,100
3 Jake Cook 993,900 922,500 71,400
4 Micah Bucknam 680,800 678,300 2,500
5 Tim Piasentin 503,800 747,500 -243,700
6 Eric Snow 383,600 381,000 2,600
7 Dylan Watts 299,900 197,500 102,400
8 Danny Thompson Jr.  238,600 5000 233,600
9 Karson Ligon 206,900 125,000 81,900
10 Austin Smith 193,500 5000 188,500
11 Jared Spencer 0 165,000 -15,000
12 Blaine Bullard 0 1,697,500 -1,547,500
13 Trace Baker 0 150,000 0
14 Noah Palmese 0 150,000 0
15 Jake Casey 0 150,000 0
16 Jaxson West 0 150,000 0
17 Jordan Rich 0 150,000 0
18 Will Cresswell 0 150,000 0
19 Luke Kovach 0 150,000 0
20 Ty Peeples 0 0 0
    10,314,600   -507,200
    10830330   8,530
         
  Maddox Latta      
  Mason Davenport      
  Reece Wissinger      
  Brayden Heidel      
  Carson Myers      
  Dayne Pengelly      
  Sam White      
  Charlie Saum      
Laika Cooperstown

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There is just a financial penalty for spending up to 5% more than total slot value. The real penalties start after 5%. You lose a first round pick (or more). So it's essentially a hard cap. 

Rounds 11 onward anything past $150,000 counts towards the pool 

I don't know about the $5,000. I wonder if it's just the minimum amount permitted. 

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33 minutes ago, Laika said:

There is just a financial penalty for spending up to 5% more than total slot value. The real penalties start after 5%. You lose a first round pick (or more). So it's essentially a hard cap. 

Rounds 11 onward anything past $150,000 counts towards the pool 

I don't know about the $5,000. I wonder if it's just the minimum amount permitted. 

You can go below that. You see 2.5k, 5k, 7.5k pretty regularly. I think i saw 1k once. 
 

It does count towards the pool to my knowledge. 

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29 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

You can go below that. You see 2.5k, 5k, 7.5k pretty regularly. I think i saw 1k once. 
 

It does count towards the pool to my knowledge. 

Any money given to any pick from rounds 1-10 counts against the slot signing pool.

Rounds 11-20, each slot is tabbed at 150,000, but the only money that would count towards the overall pool is any amount exceeding 150,000

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12 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Any money given to any pick from rounds 1-10 counts against the slot signing pool.

Rounds 11-20, each slot is tabbed at 150,000, but the only money that would count towards the overall pool is any amount exceeding 150,000

Yea, which is why rounds 6-10 are often underslot. 
 

The thing i always find funny is the small differences. Like, why does one guy get 2.5k and another 5k. 

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2 hours ago, jmomcc said:

Yea, which is why rounds 6-10 are often underslot. 
 

The thing i always find funny is the small differences. Like, why does one guy get 2.5k and another 5k. 

I know right? Like im sure they started at 2.5 and were just like... awe can ya double that? Please? Let me at least get a win in negotiations... 

I mean, they do have a wee bit of leverage knowing that if they refuse to sign the team loses the slot value... so there is at least some good faith from the team that way... but even then... would ya rather have 5k in your pocket and a chance to prove yourself? Or not... and roll the dice on a non-drafted signing where your bonus is a one-way plane ticket to Florida or Arizona?

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1 hour ago, metafour said:

Lets go! $600k under!

 

So just between him and 2 guys in 6-10 they have over 1 million extra cash to spread to those overslot guys. 

Looking real good so far

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I can't format the chart the way I would like from my phone, but the numbers are correct. We essentially have slot to sign the rest of our guys. Bullard ate up all of our savings and the entire 5% overage.

 

Snow, Watts, and Ligon could/should offer some savings to give to Spencer and maybe Piasentin. Signing Peeples is probably a pipe dream at this point.

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1 hour ago, Grant77 said:

I can't format the chart the way I would like from my phone, but the numbers are correct. We essentially have slot to sign the rest of our guys. Bullard ate up all of our savings and the entire 5% overage.

 

Snow, Watts, and Ligon could/should offer some savings to give to Spencer and maybe Piasentin. Signing Peeples is probably a pipe dream at this point.

Unless they really pile up more underslot savings from numbers that havent been reported yet. 

But, you're probably right. Chances are it was one or the other and the first one to say yes got their 1.7 million bonus, the other goes off to college. 

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6 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Unless they really pile up more underslot savings from numbers that havent been reported yet. 

But, you're probably right. Chances are it was one or the other and the first one to say yes got their 1.7 million bonus, the other goes off to college. 

I think that's exactly right. Peeples was a contingency plan. With about 900k in possible savings (presuming Cook and Piasentin sign for slot), I'd expect the majority of that to go to Jared Spencer.

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21 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

But, you're probably right. Chances are it was one or the other and the first one to say yes got their 1.7 million bonus, the other goes off to college. 

No, Bullard had a deal arranged, hence why he was drafted in the 12th round. There was a Texas A&M account that announced he was signing pretty much right after he was selected.

Peeples was just your typical emergency/"use the last pick on a ranked HS kid" pick. Nobody from the Jays seriously expected a scenario where Peeples is signed, and not Bullard.

They drafted Bub Terrell in a similar spot as Peeples last year despite it being known by everyone that he wasn't going to sign bar some extreme scenario.

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29 minutes ago, metafour said:

No, Bullard had a deal arranged, hence why he was drafted in the 12th round. There was a Texas A&M account that announced he was signing pretty much right after he was selected.

Peeples was just your typical emergency/"use the last pick on a ranked HS kid" pick. Nobody from the Jays seriously expected a scenario where Peeples is signed, and not Bullard.

They drafted Bub Terrell in a similar spot as Peeples last year despite it being known by everyone that he wasn't going to sign bar some extreme scenario.

I'm sure you're mostly right,  but even so, Peeples being the contingency plan likely accepts the 1.7 if Bullard didn't.

With the smaller signing windows, the math on slots is relatively easy to workout ahead of time for any organization.

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14 hours ago, Grant77 said:

I think that's exactly right. Peeples was a contingency plan. With about 900k in possible savings (presuming Cook and Piasentin sign for slot), I'd expect the majority of that to go to Jared Spencer.

Cook signed slightly underslot (-71,400)

 

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The top 10 are ostensibly all signed, If we do a bit of guesswork and say that Snow, Watts, and Ligon get $5000 each, we can come up with a possible bonus for Jared Spencer, which would be $707,030. It seems light, but he is a senior and has few options.

The rest of the guys get $150k, take it or leave it.

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1 minute ago, Grant77 said:

The top 10 are ostensibly all signed, If we do a bit of guesswork and say that Snow, Watts, and Ligon get $5000 each, we can come up with a possible bonus for Jared Spencer, which would be $707,030. It seems light, but he is a senior and has few options.

The rest of the guys get $150k, take it or leave it.

BA is showing Spencer signed for just 165k 

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