Blue Jays (Francis) vs Phillies (Sanchez): 6/14/25, 4:05pm

[CJ-Freeway]

Just now, Masterbather said:

I just tuned into the game before he walked the first batter and I was like "hey it looks like it's actually going well"...f*** me it went downhill rapidly.

Same, lol

[HomeRunHomer]

Phillies have stopped swinging.

[G-Snarls]

Wheels are falling off

[gruber9292]

I hope we don't see Francis make another start. Man he's hot garbage.

 

Get him out of there. 

[Doubleplay21]

Francis sent to Buffalo after that meltdown

[neverbeenhere]

Little in a bases loaded situation?

[gruber9292]

Francis needs to be demoted to Buffalo where he can hopefully figure it out. 

[neverbeenhere]

whatever works

[Doubleplay21]

3 minutes ago, neverbeenhere said:

Little in a bases loaded situation?

Little is so wild that batters should never swing

[Masterbather]

Great play! Little is NOT the guy to put into a basees loaded situation. His command is 50/50 to begin with but he spikes a curveball or two every single at bat, even if he's intending to do it it's risky with a runner on third.

[jaysthebest]

Francis is a hot garbage. He is the worst starter in the league.

[glory]

9 starts in 2024 gave Francis over two months of rope to be the worst SP in baseball. That’s insane when you think about it. This team didn’t even want to play Davis Schneider when he hit like Barry Bonds for 2 months but 9 starts from Francis and he’s suddenly an established starter. I know options are limited but it would be hard for someone like Easton Lucas to be as bad as Francis, much less worse.

[neverbeenhere]

Clase should not be in the lineup even against a lefty pitcher

[Doubleplay21]

1 minute ago, jaysthebest said:

Francis is a hot garbage. He is the worst starter in the league.

No home runs given up today...so unusual too

[Jays24]

Bo did a very crappy job of trying to stretch that out... easily the worst baserunner on the team. 

[HomeRunHomer]

Not sure they can overturn this.

[neverbeenhere]

tie game 

[HomeRunHomer]

And Vlad brings Bo home!! Let's go!!

[gruber9292]

Omg, Bo made that play at home closer than it should have been. 

[Jays24]

7 minutes ago, gruber9292 said:

Omg, Bo made that play at home closer than it should have been. 

His calf injury all but killed his speed.  Starting his career, I thought Bo would be a perennial 25/25 type of guy.  

[gruber9292]

3 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Bo did a very crappy job of trying to stretch that out... easily the worst baserunner on the team. 

Yep.. His overall game is an easy pass regarding an extension. Imo, he should be traded before the deadline even if we're in a playoff position. No sense in getting nothing for him after he leaves as he's not really a game changer right now anyway. We can buy and sell at the deadline, just like plenty of teams have before. 

[Jays24]

3 minutes ago, gruber9292 said:

Yep.. His overall game is an easy pass regarding an extension. Imo, he should be traded before the deadline even if we're in a playoff position. No sense in getting nothing for him after he leaves as he's not really a game changer right now anyway. We can buy and sell at the deadline, just like plenty of teams have before. 

I would still love to bring him back at 2B longterm so his extension would have to reflect that but not sure his ego takes a position change on this team, we shall see...

[gruber9292]

1 minute ago, Jays24 said:

I would still love to bring him back at 2B longterm so his extension would have to reflect that but not sure his ego takes a position change on this team, we shall see...

His body is morphing into a non middle infielder unfortunately. He could make a go of it at third base though. 

[HomeRunHomer]

2 minutes ago, gruber9292 said:

His body is morphing into a non middle infielder unfortunately. He could make a go of it at third base though. 

I don't think his poor arm strength plays at third base.

[Jays24]

3 minutes ago, gruber9292 said:

His body is morphing into a non middle infielder unfortunately. He could make a go of it at third base though. 

Still think he can play 2B for a few years before possibly shifting to 3B if he increases his arm strength.  Hes gotten a lot better from when he started but just doesnt have the speed/agility/range to be good enough at SS long-term.  

[neverbeenhere]

nice catch by DS

[hanton]

2024 Bowden Francis mixed in his sinker from time to time with a good FB and Splitter, he also had good vertical separation between his FB and Splitter.

2025 Francis isn't using his sinker at all and the separation on his FB/Splitter isn't as good. 

He is not fooling batters like he did last season and he doesn't have the FB that Gausman does so he can't rely on that.

[hanton]

Maybe give Y-rod a shot at starting

[neverbeenhere]

Just now, hanton said:

Maybe give Y-rod a shot at starting

should

[bronson44]

1 minute ago, hanton said:

Maybe give Y-rod a shot at starting

If he comes out again next inning it might be the start of stretching him out