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[Jimcanuck]

That's a f***ing good team lol

[wamco]

I wonder how peoples opinions would change on how this off-season was going so far if the fangraphs projections projected the same stats as our offensive players actual 2023 stats.

 

Would they still honor the projections as they currently do? Would they have conviction to say “f that, they are way off?”

[wamco]

SP Snell

SP Montgomery

SP Bauer

SP Urias

SP German

SP Ryu

 

RP Brasier

RP Neris

RP Robertson

RP Fujinama

RP Stanek

RP Fulmer

RP Loup

 

C Sanchez

1B Urshela

2B Rosario

3B Chapman

SS Anderson

LF Pham

CF Bellinger

RF Taylor

DH Soler

 

Bench - Meadows, Grandal, Hicks, Kemp

 

Who u take? This team or jays now?

What would salary be for that team?

[TheHurl]

With some creativity on term and how the $$ gets paid out, Jays can sign a couple of bats.

 

Why does anyone think this when the actual GM is saying one?

[wamco]

Because we don’t have a good hitter at 3b or dh would be my guess

[Laika]

SP Snell

SP Montgomery

SP Bauer

SP Urias

SP German

SP Ryu

 

RP Brasier

RP Neris

RP Robertson

RP Fujinama

RP Stanek

RP Fulmer

RP Loup

 

C Sanchez

1B Urshela

2B Rosario

3B Chapman

SS Anderson

LF Pham

CF Bellinger

RF Taylor

DH Soler

 

Bench - Meadows, Grandal, Hicks, Kemp

 

There are like five replacement level position players on this team. Or close to replacement level.

 

Dunno why people are saying it's good, lmao. Rotation is solid though.

[TheHurl]

Can you explain the "2020 led roster crunch" part?

 

Players held out for just 6 days didn't add a year of service, I can't remember how the players who sat out were treated, yet minor league players (despite teams not getting an in game view of them) were one year closer to needing to be added to the 40. Players already on the 40 also didn't use up an option year.

[TheHurl]

I wonder how peoples opinions would change on how this off-season was going so far if the fangraphs projections projected the same stats as our offensive players actual 2023 stats.

 

Would they still honor the projections as they currently do? Would they have conviction to say “f that, they are way off?”

 

As a person supporting the "stay the course" plan. I would say this would be a disaster. If atkins said "our internal projection systems" have them recovering, I would dig deeper into the numbers. Just as many here have done with the current projections

[Jimcanuck]

Why does anyone think this when the actual GM is saying one?

 

Actual quote from the GM wasn't as definite as that

[wamco]

Here’s to hoping the aaa guys bust the hell out this year. I’m higher on them than most I think. I look forward to going to a lot of games this year. Lots of interesting players to watch

[Laika]

Here’s to hoping the aaa guys bust the hell out this year. I’m higher on them than most I think. I look forward to going to a lot of games this year. Lots of interesting players to watch

 

The farm is deep

 

It lacks star power but a couple of lucky breakouts would change a lot

[TheHurl]

Actual quote from the GM wasn't as definite as that

 

Then I am telling you. 1 bat!

[Pendleton]

There are like five replacement level position players on this team. Or close to replacement level.

 

Dunno why people are saying it's good, lmao. Rotation is solid though.

 

It looks like a team that could compete for playoffs with the right amount of good fortune

[Jimcanuck]

Then I am telling you. 1 bat!

 

Here is what Atkins said, direct quote: "I don't think we'll add three players. I think, most likely, that it's closer to one."

 

Also, 4 days before trading Moreno last year, he said he was comfortable going into the season with 3 catchers.

 

In other words, your attempt to be definitive is both (1) wrong, and (2) a fool's errand.

[TheHurl]

Here is what Atkins said, direct quote: "I don't think we'll add three players. I think, most likely, that it's closer to one."

 

Also, 4 days before trading Moreno last year, he said he was comfortable going into the season with 3 catchers.

 

In other words, your attempt to be definitive is both (1) wrong, and (2) a fool's errand.

 

I am just looking out for your mental well being, by tempering your expectations. Also since that quote he has added one. So it might still be no more added (it isn't).

[Jimcanuck]

I am just looking out for your mental well being, by tempering your expectations. Also since that quote he has added one. So it might still be no more added (it isn't).

 

Dude, I've been a Jays fan since 1977 and a Leafs fan since 1965. I've weathered the anguish of decades of futility and still going strong.

[Jays24]

We are def adding a DH unless we luck our way into a cheaper than expected Bellinger deal.

 

My guess is still Chapman on a cheaper than expected deal and one DH (Soler or J.D.), which would make it a decent offseason.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Here’s to hoping the aaa guys bust the hell out this year. I’m higher on them than most I think. I look forward to going to a lot of games this year. Lots of interesting players to watch

 

Agreed. Besides Vladdy, this is one of the biggest wild cards the Jays have going into the season.

 

If they get a couple "Babe Schneider" type breakouts it will really go a long ways to breaking 90 wins.

 

Even if these players can't sustain it long term (Schneider may not) it'll keep the team afloat for another season with the pitching and defense they have.

[G-Snarls]

The radio people going on about Soto and how great a year he could have in "that lineup"

 

Wtf. Wasn't he in a better lineup in SD and maybe even Washington at times?? He had Machado and Tatis, Harper and Rendon did he not?

[Jays24]

The radio people going on about Soto and how great a year he could have in "that lineup"

 

Wtf. Wasn't he in a better lineup in SD and maybe even Washington at times??

 

Hes going into a contract year that will decide whether he gets 400/500/600 million. If he remains healthy, I'd expect him to have a monster year for the increased motivation. Judge/Soto will be the best hitting 1-2 punch in baseball next year.

[Laika]

Apparently a one year deal for Joc

 

I think most of the prediction sites guessed 2 years

[Pendleton]

Apparently a one year deal for Joc

 

I think most of the prediction sites guessed 2 years

 

Latest reports are suggesting one year plus mutual option, will be interesting to see the financial terms.

[wamco]

Will it though? Is there really a wide range of answers? Give or take a million ? 1/13.75 ?

 

 

Always annoying how long contracts take to make when u can guess within 90 pct of the eventual outcome before the off-season

[jerb]

[jerb]

[BTS]

 

I’m now 100% confident that Atkins is signing Soler or JDM. No way they don’t beat that if they were interested in Pederson.

[Spanky__99]

I wonder how peoples opinions would change on how this off-season was going so far if the fangraphs projections projected the same stats as our offensive players actual 2023 stats.

 

Would they still honor the projections as they currently do? Would they have conviction to say “f that, they are way off?”

 

Depends after the offseason, and no, I would never waiver from projections as the source is far stronger than you or anyone for that matter. Show your conviction.

[Spanky__99]

Dude, I've been a Jays fan since 1977 and a Leafs fan since 1965. I've weathered the anguish of decades of futility and still going strong.

 

Wow... you're old as dirt.

[Spanky__99]

Will it though? Is there really a wide range of answers? Give or take a million ? 1/13.75 ?

 

 

Always annoying how long contracts take to make when u can guess within 90 pct of the eventual outcome before the off-season

 

Who are you replying too? There's a quote function FYI.

[L54]

I’m now 100% confident that Atkins is signing Soler or JDM. No way they don’t beat that if they were interested in Pederson.

 

I agree. I hope they sign JDM but I think they end up with Soler