GDT: Game 3/3 Tigers @ Jays, April 13, 2023, 7:07 EDT - Brooms out!

[WryNGinger]

That was some pure s*** from the home plate umpire tonight. Brutal calls way outside the strike zone against both teams. What a f***ing s*** show.

 

Weird how young athletes in their prime can see and react better than older (is there an annual eye test performed each year on MLB umps?) umpires? At least in hockey the ref's and linesmen need to be able to keep up with the pace of play... Where is the proof to the teams and the public that some of these guys can even see or react well enough to call a 100 mph pitch close to the strike zone?

[John_Havok]

I’m out for the GDT today with the loss yesterday, who’s gonna be brave enough to start it against the Rays?

[Spanky99]

I’m out for the GDT today with the loss yesterday, who’s gonna be brave enough to start it against the Rays?

 

I might, f*** the Rays!

[jaysblue]

Jays Moneyline today are +110.

[max silver]

I hope this is the last year of rope they give Biggio. We need him to pick up his game offensively, he's been here long enough. We need to upgrade his role in the off season if he underperforms again this year.

 

I think the club may need to look into upgrading Espinal if he doesn't pick up his game offensively. He's been flat out terrible for over half a season now. Dating back to June 16 of last season he's produced an absolutely awful 60 WRC+ and has only reached replacement level FWAR of 0.0 due to great defence.

[jaysblue]

I think the club may need to look into upgrading Espinal if he doesn't pick up his game offensively. He's been flat out terrible for over half a season now. Dating back to June 16 of last season he's produced an absolutely awful 60 WRC+ and has only reached replacement level FWAR of 0.0 due to great defence.

 

Utility players can be added at the trade deadline. If the Jays need to upgrade on Espinal or Biggio, sure they easily will be able to.

 

It's a weak market even at 2B for 2024 free agency. Actually pretty weak hitters market overall.

 

Pitching market seems pretty decent though.

[John_Havok]

[Brownie19]

I think the club may need to look into upgrading Espinal if he doesn't pick up his game offensively. He's been flat out terrible for over half a season now. Dating back to June 16 of last season he's produced an absolutely awful 60 WRC+ and has only reached replacement level FWAR of 0.0 due to great defence.

 

Addison Barger.

[Stangstag]

Addison Barger.

 

Or Otto Lopez

[John_Havok]

Jays Moneyline today are +110.

 

Against a 13-0 team with Berrios on the mound... i would have thoguht they'd be even higher.

[connorp]

Against a 13-0 team with Berrios on the mound... i would have thoguht they'd be even higher.

 

Berrios is due. Vegas knows it

[jaysblue]

Berrios is due. Vegas knows it

 

Rays are due to lose one game as well! Haha.

[Pendleton]

Addison Barger.

 

Based on his usage in Buffalo early on this year, one would not come to the conclusion that they are angling to have Barger take over at 2B. He's started four games at SS, three at 3B, two as DH and one in RF. Nearly everywhere but the keystone, although it's still early.

 

Edit - actually no playing time at 2B at all last year either. None since his late season promotion to HiA in 2021. If he's going to play there in the bigs, they'd surely want to get him some reps.

[John_Havok]

Based on his usage in Buffalo early on this year, one would not come to the conclusion that they are angling to have Barger take over at 2B. He's started four games at SS, three at 3B, two as DH and one in RF. Nearly everywhere but the keystone, although it's still early.

 

Edit - actually no playing time at 2B at all last year either. None since his late season promotion to HiA in 2021. If he's going to play there in the bigs, they'd surely want to get him some reps.

 

Barger's best defensive tool is his arm, I dont think there's any plans to make him a 2b. Most of the reports I've read suggest he's more than capable of sticking at 3b, but SS is probably not the right fit. OF is also a possibility given how the Jays love having versatility these days.

[max silver]

Barger's best defensive tool is his arm, I dont think there's any plans to make him a 2b. Most of the reports I've read suggest he's more than capable of sticking at 3b, but SS is probably not the right fit. OF is also a possibility given how the Jays love having versatility these days.

 

I suspect he's the most likely candidate to take over 3rd base once Chapman inevitably leaves in free agency.

[John_Havok]

I suspect he's the most likely candidate to take over 3rd base once Chapman inevitably leaves in free agency.

 

Yea, likely between him and Orelvis.

[Brownie19]

Based on his usage in Buffalo early on this year, one would not come to the conclusion that they are angling to have Barger take over at 2B. He's started four games at SS, three at 3B, two as DH and one in RF. Nearly everywhere but the keystone, although it's still early.

 

Edit - actually no playing time at 2B at all last year either. None since his late season promotion to HiA in 2021. If he's going to play there in the bigs, they'd surely want to get him some reps.

 

If he's playing SS, he'll be able to cover 2nd base with pretty limited work there. I know that may not be his long term home, but if Espy/Biggio/Merrifield continue to suck - we may need to turn to him there this year (before he takes over 3rd when Chapman leaves next year)

[John_Havok]

If he's playing SS, he'll be able to cover 2nd base with pretty limited work there. I know that may not be his long term home, but if Espy/Biggio/Merrifield continue to suck - we may need to turn to him there this year (before he takes over 3rd when Chapman leaves next year)

 

Yeah, if they do bring him up for 2b it would definitely be a stop/gap non long term thing. His current defensive skillset points to 3b or the OF (going by scouting reports of course)

[Deadpool]

Rays are due to lose one game as well! Haha.

 

Three*

[max silver]

If he's playing SS, he'll be able to cover 2nd base with pretty limited work there. I know that may not be his long term home, but if Espy/Biggio/Merrifield continue to suck - we may need to turn to him there this year (before he takes over 3rd when Chapman leaves next year)

 

Barger hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire at AAA up to this point either (79 WRC+, 32.6% k rate) so until he finds his stroke he's not an option either.

[Brownie19]

Barger hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire at AAA up to this point either (79 WRC+, 32.6% k rate) so until he finds his stroke he's not an option either.

 

I just suggested Barger as an internal option if it gets to the point that Espy/Biggio/Merrifield aren't cutting it at 2nd base. We aren't anywhere close to the point we're going to make the decision. Everyone SSS right now.

[jaysblue]

Bring Orlando Hudson out of retirement!

[John_Havok]

Getting close to crunch time on getting a GDT up for today.

 

All kinds of bad mojo if one doesnt go up before first pitch.

 

Spanky was going to jump on the grenade, but its Friday so he might be in jail already. Omar was willing to give it a rip also.