General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[BTS]

Trade for either Tommy Edman or Brendan Donovan! What would the Jays have to give up?

 

Clearest path would be hoping the Cards like Manoah and would be willing to ove Matz to the bullpen.

[RobinThicc]

Padres traded for Soto and have a top 10 farm in baseball prior to trading him to the yankees.

 

Its absolutely an organizational failure to be in the bottom 10, when you consider the resources they have available to them. The lack of ability to build it back up is holding Atkins back.

 

Give him a consistenly good farm to deal from and he'd be cooking every offseason.

[Frenchsoup]

Jesse Winker and Joey Votto are great fits for this club. I think we can get Winker for about 4 mill

[Carlos Danger]

Jesse Winker and Joey Votto are great fits for this club. I think we can get Winker for about 4 mill

 

Dude, please read why the Mariners got rid of Winker and why no one wants him. You are like the baseball version of Encino man..

[wilko]

Jesse Winker and Joey Votto are great fits for this club. I think we can get Winker for about 4 mill

 

Nobody wants Winker.. Both are probably cooked at this point.

[Terminator]

Let's go dumpster diving! Bring me Donaldson, Joc Pederson and Randal Grichuk on one year deals.

 

1. Springer

2. Bo

3. Pederson (L)

4. Vlad

5. Schneider

6. Kirk

7. Varsho (L)

8. Donaldson

9. KK (L)

 

C- Jansen

UT- Kinder-Falafel

UT- Biggio (L)

OF- Grichuk

 

Getting swept in the Wild Card round will be easy to make.

[Jimcanuck]

Short answer is because Andrew Friedman is probably the best GM in baseball in recent memory and has the right people doing the right things in the right places.

 

But even a quick glance at their roster... 17 home grown players on the 40 man roster. Jays? 17 homegrown on the 40 man roster. I'll get a bit more deep into it in a few posts to compare the respective home grown players on each team.

 

Dodgers success with prospects predates Friedman. They were the first team to establish a baseball academy in the DR, in 1987. Now all 30 teams have a training facility in the DR.

 

As long as I have followed baseball, the Dodgers have always been ahead of the curve when it comes to prospects and player development.

[jaysblue]

Let's go dumpster diving! Bring me Donaldson, Joc Pederson and Randal Grichuk on one year deals.

 

1. Springer

2. Bo

3. Pederson (L)

4. Vlad

5. Schneider

6. Kirk

7. Varsho (L)

8. Donaldson

9. KK (L)

 

C- Jansen

UT- Kinder-Falafel

UT- Biggio (L)

OF- Grichuk

 

Getting swept in the Wild Card round will be easy to make.

 

Grichuk wouldn't be that bad sharing play time with KK in the OF. Only other RHB that seems logical is Duvall given the Jays need some pop. Would prefer Duvall over Grichuk.

 

Don't mind Pederson at all on a one-year deal as a DH if the Jays miss out on Hoskins or JDM. Plus with Pederson is he's a lefty bat as well which is nice. Plus I'm sure a bat like Duvall or Grichuk could slot in as a DH against tough lefties if they decide to keep KK in the outfield.

 

If the Jays went dumpster diving for a 3B, would prefer Longoria over Donaldson haha. I would love them to trade for Donovan or Edman from the Cards. Gives the Jays plenty of options and versatility all around the roster.

[Laika]

Let's go dumpster diving! Bring me Donaldson, Joc Pederson and Randal Grichuk on one year deals.

 

1. Springer

2. Bo

3. Pederson (L)

4. Vlad

5. Schneider

6. Kirk

7. Varsho (L)

8. Donaldson

9. KK (L)

 

C- Jansen

UT- Kinder-Falafel

UT- Biggio (L)

OF- Grichuk

 

Getting swept in the Wild Card round will be easy to make.

 

Not grimy enough

 

Downgrade Pederson to like.... Eric Hosmer

[Laika]

Grichuk wouldn't be that bad sharing play time with KK in the OF. Only other RHB that seems logical is Duvall given the Jays need some pop. Would prefer Duvall over Grichuk.

 

Don't mind Pederson at all on a one-year deal as a DH if the Jays miss out on Hoskins or JDM. Plus with Pederson is he's a lefty bat as well which is nice. Plus I'm sure a bat like Duvall or Grichuk could slot in as a DH against tough lefties if they decide to keep KK in the outfield.

 

If the Jays went dumpster diving for a 3B, would prefer Longoria over Donaldson haha. I would love them to trade for Donovan or Edman from the Cards. Gives the Jays plenty of options and versatility all around the roster.

 

Falaffle is the 3B over those old farts Longo and Donaldson

 

I think if the Jays bring in any other 3B it's either a clear upgrade through trade or a LHB potential platoon partner

[Jimcanuck]

Jesus Christ, are we planning to tank in 2024? You guys know about the new draft lottery, right?

[Terminator]

Forget I said Pederson we can just use Horwitz.

[Terminator]

Donaldson has one last ride in him. The defense is holding and the power is there. 80 games of a Yankee revenge tour in 2024 before blowing out both of his calves and retiring. I believe.

[jaysblue]

Donaldson has one last ride in him. The defense is holding and the power is there. 80 games of a Yankee revenge tour in 2024 before blowing out both of his calves and retiring. I believe.

 

Frenchsoup loves you now haha

[jaysblue]

Jesus Christ, are we planning to tank in 2024? You guys know about the new draft lottery, right?

 

Let's hope they sign Hoskins or JDM as a DH.

 

Sign Duvall or Grichuk to share playing time with KK in the outfield.

 

Trade for Edman or Donovan from the Cards or Polanco from the Twins to play 3B and/or around the infield.

 

RF Springer

SS Bichette

1B Guerrero

DH Hoskins or JDM

2B Schneider/Biggio

C Kirk/Jansen

CF Varsho

3B Polanco or Donovan/Edman

LF Kiermaier / Duvall or Grichuk

 

Bench:

C Jansen/Kirk

2B/3B/LF Biggio/Schneider

2B/3B/SS/OF IKF

OF Duvall or Grichuk / KK

[Jimcanuck]

Let's hope they sign Hoskins or JDM as a DH.

 

Sign Duvall or Grichuk to share playing time with KK in the outfield.

 

Trade for Edman or Donovan from the Cards or Polanco from the Twins to play 3B and/or around the infield.

 

RF Springer

SS Bichette

1B Guerrero

DH Hoskins or JDM

2B Schneider/Biggio

C Kirk/Jansen

CF Varsho

3B Polanco or Donovan/Edman

LF Kiermaier / Duvall or Grichuk

 

Bench:

C Jansen/Kirk

2B/3B/LF Biggio/Schneider

2B/3B/SS/OF IKF

OF Duvall or Grichuk / KK

 

Hoskins yes

 

Steamer projects Duvall for 0.3 WAR. Biggio is projected for 0.9 WAR in fewer PA. Jays can easily do far better than Duvall.

[DonJays]

Donaldson has one last ride in him. The defense is holding and the power is there. 80 games of a Yankee revenge tour in 2024 before blowing out both of his calves and retiring. I believe.

 

I can’t tell if you are being serious but JD f***ing sucks. He is finished. Absolutely f***ing brutal. I watched enough Yankees games last year to see his career is over

[Jimcanuck]

I can’t tell if you are being serious but JD f***ing sucks. He is finished. Absolutely f***ing brutal. I watched enough Yankees games last year to see his career is over

 

Term is a well known troll

[Marew]

Stupid monkey on life support avatar

[DonJays]

Term is a well known troll

I’m starting to think there are only a couple posters that aren’t trolls. Happy with the KK signing, definitely didn’t want IKF but if he is a Biggio/ Espinal upgrade and not the Chappy replacement it kind of makes sense. Certainly raises the floor and provides greater versatility. Espinal has always been hilariously overrated due to a decent 6 month stretch.

 

The bitching on here is insane. They aren’t f***ing done! The bats will be announced soon enough and then we can dissect the offseason in its totality

[jaysblue]

I can’t tell if you are being serious but JD f***ing sucks. He is finished. Absolutely f***ing brutal. I watched enough Yankees games last year to see his career is over

 

Only guy who probably is serious is Frenchsoup. He loves JD.

[max silver]

Only guy who probably is serious is Frenchsoup. He loves JD.

 

I can't decide if that dude is a troll or the resident harmless crazy guy.

[connorp]

I can't decide if that dude is a troll or the resident harmless crazy guy.

 

His troll shtick is established at this point lol

[DonJays]

I can't decide if that dude is a troll or the resident harmless crazy guy.

 

Nobody is that crazy/ stupid. I think him and Marew are the same person. Their trash takes are more or less the same. Soup is definitely a Yankees fan

[Jimcanuck]

Nobody is that crazy/ stupid. I think him and Marew are the same person. Their trash takes are more or less the same. Soup is definitely a Yankees fan

 

Soups history with this board goes back for more than 10 years. I think he took partying too seriously and has gotten a little off kilter as a result. His mind clouds need time to clear out.

[DonJays]

Soups history with this board goes back for more than 10 years. I think he took partying too seriously and has gotten a little off kilter as a result. His mind clouds need time to clear out.

 

Oh s***. Alright, Soup be yourself then

[Terminator]

I can’t tell if you are being serious but JD f***ing sucks. He is finished. Absolutely f***ing brutal. I watched enough Yankees games last year to see his career is over

 

I'm telling you he can play league average defense, hit .220 with 15 homers in 80 games and throw up a war and a half before getting hurt and turning things over to Kinder-Falafel. And he'd only cost 5 mil bucks to do it.

 

Do I think we should aim higher? Yes. But while I like Kinder Falafel I think we should look to get a 3B who can chip in 60-80 games 3B. Donaldson fits that bill and so does Justin Turner.

[Terminator]

Term is a well known troll

 

Don't listen to him, Don. I'm 100% the real McCoy. Jim here has been my wannabe rival on this board for almost two decades despite me getting the better of him every single time. It's kind of like the Harlem Globe Trotters (that's me) vs the Washington Generals (that's Jim).

[DonJays]

I'm telling you he can play league average defense, hit .220 with 15 homers in 80 games and throw up a war and a half before getting hurt and turning things over to Kinder-Falafel. And he'd only cost 5 mil bucks to do it.

 

Do I think we should aim higher? Yes. But while I like Kinder Falafel I think we should look to get a 3B who can chip in 60-80 games 3B. Donaldson fits that bill and so does Justin Turner.

But he can’t play league average D. What makes you think this? Definitely the worst 3rd baseman I saw last season

[DonJays]

Don't listen to him, Don. I'm 100% the real McCoy. Jim here has been my wannabe rival on this board for almost two decades despite me getting the better of him every single time. It's kind of like the Harlem Globe Trotters (that's me) vs the Washington Generals (that's Jim).

 

lol. The bickering and drama on here is hilarious. I’m always entertained