2022 World Series Thread: Houston Astros vs. Philadelphia Phillies (best of 7)

[philly30]

We just don't have the pitching to match up in a long series

[Omar]

We just don't have the pitching to match up in a long series

 

Maybe the Phils cans squeeze them at home.

[harvey16]

Phils win all 3 games at home, book it!

[Stangstag]

Phils win all 3 games at home, book it!

 

That would be something, highly doubt it. The series will go back to Houston

[Laika]

We just don't have the pitching to match up in a long series

 

Jays pitching is basically the same as Philly

[Stangstag]

Jays pitching is basically the same as Philly

 

How dare you

[Jonn]

I never liked the 2-3-2 format.

 

Really puts the lower seat in the drivers seat if they steal a game on the road.

[BigCecil]

Jays pitching is basically the same as Philly

 

Hmm. Interesting. SP agreed. How do you rate the pens comparatively?

 

Alvarado (this version - 14/9 K%) and Dominguez along with Robertson is a better high leverage trio than we have - lets say thats Romano, Yimi and Bass?

 

Depth wise '22 Hand is not really in the PHI circle of trust, but his FIP is the same as Mayza this season, and a better fWAR. Yet, Schneider pulls Gausman to go to Mayza turning Santanna around. I can't see Thompson doing the same with Hand in similar spot.

Edited October 30, 2022 by BigCecil

[Stangstag]

Hmm. Interesting. SP agreed. How do you rate the pens comparatively?

 

Alvarado (this version - 14/9 K%) and Dominguez along with Robertson is a better high leverage trio than we have - lets say thats Romano, Yimi and Bass?

 

Depth wise '22 Hand is not really in the PHI circle of trust, but his FIP is the same as Mayza this season, and a better fWAR. Yet, Schneider pulls Gausman to go to Mayza turning Santanna around. I can't see Thompson doing the same with Hand in similar spot.

 

Did you miss the games against SD where Thompson went to Hand in big spots… twice… and he blew it both times. That’s more the reason he isn’t using Hand anymore. PHI is luck he didn’t cost them the series

[Laika]

Hmm. Interesting. SP agreed. How do you rate the pens comparatively?

 

Alvarado (this version - 14/9 K%) and Dominguez along with Robertson is a better high leverage trio than we have - lets say thats Romano, Yimi and Bass?

 

Depth wise '22 Hand is not really in the PHI circle of trust, but his FIP is the same as Mayza this season, and a better fWAR. Yet, Schneider pulls Gausman to go to Mayza turning Santanna around. I can't see Thompson doing the same with Hand in similar spot.

 

I don’t think their pen is any better. Robertson is a bit wild and s*****. Alvarado had a good year but he’s a gas can.

 

Toronto has better middle relief for sure and I think the better closer hands down

[philly30]

I don’t think their pen is any better. Robertson is a bit wild and s*****. Alvarado had a good year but he’s a gas can.

 

Toronto has better middle relief for sure and I think the better closer hands down

 

Agreed

[BigCecil]

Did you miss the games against SD where Thompson went to Hand in big spots… twice… and he blew it both times. That’s more the reason he isn’t using Hand anymore. PHI is luck he didn’t cost them the series

 

No. I watched a little bewildered. That’s true. Fair point.

[BigCecil]

I don’t think their pen is any better. Robertson is a bit wild and s*****. Alvarado had a good year but he’s a gas can.

 

Toronto has better middle relief for sure and I think the better closer hands down

 

Fair on pen. Alvarado is a gas can when wild. Got sent down for it didn’t he? But that slider and FB from the left side is pretty elite when he is finding the zone. He and Seranthony are throwing well now. Robertson is over rated.

[Stangstag]

Fair on pen. Alvarado is a gas can when wild. Got sent down for it didn’t he? But that slider and FB from the left side is pretty elite when he is finding the zone. He and Seranthony are throwing well now. Robertson is over rated.

 

Yup and thats all it takes sometimes for a team to go far/win it all.

 

See: Washington 2019, Cleveland 2016, Atlanta 2021… etc

 

Could have been us. Our guys all absolutely crapped the bed though.

[philly30]

Fair on pen. Alvarado is a gas can when wild. Got sent down for it didn’t he? But that slider and FB from the left side is pretty elite when he is finding the zone. He and Seranthony are throwing well now. Robertson is over rated.

 

Yeah since coming back he has been the best in the pen other than Dominguez

[jaysblue]

I don’t think their pen is any better. Robertson is a bit wild and s*****. Alvarado had a good year but he’s a gas can.

 

Toronto has better middle relief for sure and I think the better closer hands down

 

Alvardo posted a 1.7 WAR with a 14.29 K/9 this season. When he was with Tampa, looked like he was one of the top young relievers coming up. He's no slouch. He's elite when he's on.

 

Robertson is a bit wild agreed but high K rate has helped him.

 

Seranthony Dominguez is very good. 27-years-old, 3.09 FIP, 10.76 K/9, 1.0 WAR this season. On a whole different level in the Postseason: 17.36 K/9.

 

Andrew Bellatti had a solid year: 2.87 FIP, 12.92 K/9, 1.0 WAR.

 

Connor Brogdon is also pretty good.

 

Phillies relievers have higher K rates and we've seen that be successful in the Postseason.

 

Jays have the closer advantage in Romano. No debate there. In terms of the rest of the bullpen, Phillies have higher K arms so I give them the advantage over the Jays in that regard. While close, stats even show Phillies BP was better than the Jays in 2022.

[Spanky99]

Y'all dumn.

[G-Snarls]

Biggest start Syndergaard has had in a while...

[Stangstag]

This game is very possibly going to be cancelled/postponed. MLB saying they will push the whole schedule by a day if today is rained out (off day Friday)

 

Could be a big break for the Phillies.

 

f*** this weather

[philly30]

Not looking good fro a game tonight but definitely helps phillies

[Stangstag]

Not looking good fro a game tonight but definitely helps phillies

 

Its really s***** that MLB keeps doing this, they wait til the last second to cancel. Its an hour til game time and still 0 news. f***ing scumbags delaying so they can make money off concessions

[Stangstag]

Aaaaaaaand it’s canceled. Shocker.

 

f*** MLB, I feel bad for Philly fans at the game

[Stangstag]

[philly30]

Its really s***** that MLB keeps doing this, they wait til the last second to cancel. Its an hour til game time and still 0 news. f***ing scumbags delaying so they can make money off concessions

 

And of course people in the media don't dare criticize them, that is terrible too, anyone that looked at the radar knew it was going to get worse as night went on. Thomson just said looking at the radar he knew it would get worse, disgraceful, I bet people that paid for parking are not getting the money back

[Stangstag]

Bryce is nasty

[Spanky99]

LETS GO PHiLLIES!!!!

[Jimcanuck]

Dombrowski genius

[Jonn]

I don’t think this series is going back to Houston. This is prime set up for Philly having 3 straight home games. Just a completely different atmosphere

[Stangstag]

I don’t think this series is going back to Houston. This is prime set up for Philly having 3 straight home games. Just a completely different atmosphere

 

It’ll go back to Houston

[Omar]

Dombrowski genius

 

He will get you a World Series but then leave your organization wiith a mess that takes a decade to clean up.