General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)

[Jays24]

I picked it up last year for the Jays season only, didnt really want it for the rest of the time but i found it very worth the 14.99 per month

 

Feel free to look into IPTV that gives you thousands of channels and movies for 10 bucks per month.

 

As long as you have good internet connection and can live without needing the app, it's a much better investment. You basically get every MLB game and everything else with it.

[John_Havok]

Feel free to look into IPTV that gives you thousands of channels and movies for 10 bucks per month.

 

As long as you have good internet connection and can live without needing the app, it's a much better investment. You basically get every MLB game and everything else with it.

 

Interesting. Any recommendations on providers? Im not up on these kinds of things

[Jays24]

Interesting. Any recommendations on providers? Im not up on these kinds of things

 

I've been using one for 4 years and it's been pretty damn good. I use it to watch all PPVs (UFC and Boxing), sports games not on local TV and the odd movie here and there so its not my primary TV source.

 

You can pay 15 bucks monthly to try it out at first or just pay 120 in cash up front for a full year of service.

 

Golumbia Video in Brampton. Check it out. I'm sure there could be more places available closer to you if you ask around.

[The_DH]

Feel free to look into IPTV that gives you thousands of channels and movies for 10 bucks per month.

 

As long as you have good internet connection and can live without needing the app, it's a much better investment. You basically get every MLB game and everything else with it.

 

Totally interested in this, a former neighbour had it and was just going to get it when he passed. How do you shop for this, what do you ask for, and so on? My cable system SUCKS and would be nice to get something better with real channels.

[Jays24]

Totally interested in this, a former neighbour had it and was just going to get it when he passed. How do you shop for this, what do you ask for, and so on? My cable system SUCKS and would be nice to get something better with real channels.

 

Just provided details in my post above.

[Spanky99]

Totally interested in this, a former neighbour had it and was just going to get it when he passed. How do you shop for this, what do you ask for, and so on? My cable system SUCKS and would be nice to get something better with real channels.

 

He said to go here... https://www.golumbiavideo.net/

[JuniorFelix54]

It's not a "realistic assessment", you simply don't know what the f*** you are talking about. Berrios pitches one good game then two bad games? Since he became a regular starter in 2017 he's been the 14th most valuable starter in all of baseball. And you are complaining about guys like Gausman and Kikuchi before they've made a single regular season start in a Jays uniform. If you want to be taken seriously and not viewed as an annoying assclown with garbage opinions you need to smarten up and stop spouting nonsense in every goddamn post you make.

 

Keep running your mouth while spreading fake news about me. I never said one bad thing about Gausman I said hopefully he can replicate what he did last year and not become another Ryu. As for your boy Berrios, boy he sure looks good tonight don't he?

[L54]

Looks like Junior was right

[L54]

Lots of Berrios value is derived from never having missed a start

[Krylian]

Keep running your mouth while spreading fake news about me. I never said one bad thing about Gausman I said hopefully he can replicate what he did last year and not become another Ryu. As for your boy Berrios, boy he sure looks good tonight don't he?

 

I guess Berrios will never get out of the first inning again. You sure showed us.

[Stangstag]

I guess Berrios will never get out of the first inning again. You sure showed us.

 

Worst contract in franchise history

[Laika]

Lots of Berrios value is derived from never having missed a start

 

Should've missed this one

[connorp]

Some guy said he mixes a great game with a couple bad ones and he was basically banished lol

[L54]

Should've missed this one

 

One more bad one then he’ll have a good one don’t worry

[L54]

Some guy said he mixes a great game with a couple bad ones and he was basically banished lol

 

Complete assclown!!!

[Laika]

Oh look, our resident pissant defenders of alternate viewpoints are here again.

[L54]

Equality for all advocates actually

[JuniorFelix54]

I guess Berrios will never get out of the first inning again. You sure showed us.

 

Now I see your problem, you think anyone who makes it out of the first inning is a cy young candidate. No of course it was definitely you who showed me, clearly tonight's performance was much more proof that he's a stud than that he's an average pitcher who has a lot of bad games.

[AdamGreenwood]

"In exchange for Manaea, Oakland receives 19-year-old infielder Euribiel Angeles and 25-year-old pitcher Adrian Martinez, ranked as San Diego's 12th and 26th overall prospects, according to MLB.com."

 

I'm still kind of pissed off that we couldn't get Manaea. Would be so much more confident if we had him instead of Kikuchi, and we'd have another $36 million to fill in some other gaps.

[Jonn]

"In exchange for Manaea, Oakland receives 19-year-old infielder Euribiel Angeles and 25-year-old pitcher Adrian Martinez, ranked as San Diego's 12th and 26th overall prospects, according to MLB.com."

 

I'm still kind of pissed off that we couldn't get Manaea. Would be so much more confident if we had him instead of Kikuchi, and we'd have another $36 million to fill in some other gaps.

 

I’m also really not excited Kikuchi signing at all. One year would have been fine the Third Year was a commitment. I’m hoping they saw something they thought they can fix.

[Spanky99]

Now I see your problem, you think anyone who makes it out of the first inning is a cy young candidate. No of course it was definitely you who showed me, clearly tonight's performance was much more proof that he's a stud than that he's an average pitcher who has a lot of bad games.

 

Your post history is pathetic, as are you now. Pathetic.

[connorp]

Your post history is pathetic, as are you now. Pathetic.

 

Suck on an egg Spanky. You aren’t the gatekeeper

[Spanky99]

Suck on an egg Spanky. You aren’t the gatekeeper

 

Shaddup, nor are you.

[Krylian]

Now I see your problem, you think anyone who makes it out of the first inning is a cy young candidate. No of course it was definitely you who showed me, clearly tonight's performance was much more proof that he's a stud than that he's an average pitcher who has a lot of bad games.

 

Clearly you haven't been reading much of my work. I'm the last person to blow smoke up anyone's ass.

[Ray]

Already posted in the GDT, but Espinal already surpassed his max exit velo last by 2.5 mph lol

[Ehjays]

Bichette: No Extension Talks With Blue Jays Right Now

By Darragh McDonald | April 8, 2022 at 8:47pm CDT

 

The Blue Jays’ core players are about to get more expensive. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. has already reached arbitration as a Super Two player, agreeing to a $7.9MM salary in his first of four passes through the arb system. Teoscar Hernandez is earning $10.65MM this year, his second of three arb seasons. Cavan Biggio, like Guerrero, qualified for Super Two and is in his first of four arb seasons, making $2.1225MM this year.

 

As for Bo Bichette, his two years and 63 days of service time fell shy of this year’s Super Two cutoff of 2.116, meaning he won’t be able to earn a meaningful salary increase until after this season. As for whether an extension is in the cards, the 24-year-old had told Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith that his camp and the club have had some conversations, but that “right now we’re focused on the season and accomplishing what we think we’re capable of. Right now, we’re not talking.” Most players usually prefer not to continue extension talks into the regular season, meaning it’s likely they won’t resume until the end of this campaign, when Bichette will have reached arbitration and earned himself some more leverage in any future negotiations.

 

Team president/CEO Mark Shapiro doesn’t seem overly stressed about the situation. “It’s not like we are a small market where if it gets towards the end of the contract and we can’t extend them, we need to panic and trade them for prospects,” Shapiro tells Sportsnet’s Shi Davidi. “I understand fans or maybe someone externally might think you need to extend these guys. I felt that way when I was working in Cleveland. I do not feel that way working in Toronto.” That’s not to say they won’t try at all, of course. “Those players are both under control for three more seasons (beyond 2022),” Shapiro said of both Bichette and Guerrero. “That is a very long time. During that time, it’s safe to say we will continue both formally and informally to explore extensions with them. Should that not happen, we’re very comfortable that our market gives us the ability to go year to year and pay them year to year. And if they happen to get to free agency, we obviously will be a team that will pursue them in free agency, too.”

 

Despite a 2020 season in which the team played their home games in Buffalo with no fans, and a 2021 season in which they bounced from Dunedin to Buffalo and then back to Toronto with limited capacity, the club is running a franchise record Opening Day payroll this year. Jason Martinez of Roster Resource pegs it at $172MM, topping the $163MM from 2017, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts. However, there will be need for future moves, as a big chunk of the roster will be hitting free agency after the 2023 season, including Teoscar Hernandez, Hyun Jin Ryu, Lourdes Gurriel Jr. and Matt Chapman. “You won’t need to ask, you can just look at the attendance numbers, look at the ratings and that will give you your answer,” Shapiro said of the future spending. “If we get back to levels we were at in ’15 and ’16, we will be fine to sustain or even grow our payroll. If we do not, we will probably have to reconsider our roster.”

 

As for Bichette, Davidi reports that the Blue Jays offered him a salary of $747.1K for this year, just barely above the $700K league minimum. Bichette refused this offer, a move often taken by pre-arbitration players as a form of protest against compensation they consider insufficient. Whether that will hamper future relations between the two camps is unknown, but Shapiro’s comments illustrate he views the future health of the club as connected to larger issues than an individual player’s contract. As Davidi points out in his piece, the club was content to let Robbie Ray and Marcus Semien sign elsewhere, while turning to alternatives like Kevin Gausman, Matt Chapman and Yusei Kikuchi for replacements. While the merits of that strategy can be debated, the public relations will certainly be different with players like Bichette and Guerrero, who have been the focus of Jays fans since well before their debuts, as opposed to vets on short-term deals like Ray and Semien.

[max silver]

Keep running your mouth while spreading fake news about me. I never said one bad thing about Gausman I said hopefully he can replicate what he did last year and not become another Ryu. As for your boy Berrios, boy he sure looks good tonight don't he?

 

There is the old expression that even a stopped clock is right once per day, but that is still being too generous to the likes of you. Let's check out Berrios after a sample size of more than one game and then we can reassess. Maybe he even follows your two bad start one bad start pattern one time this season, this still will do nothing to validate your faulty thought processes after such a small sample size. At some point if you continue to blather on I intend to go through his historical results and see what kind of ratio between bad starts and good starts he has actually maintained, hopefully that will shut you up for good on this topic.

[connorp]

There is the old expression that even a stopped clock is right once per day, but that is still being too generous to the likes of you. Let's check out Berrios after a sample size of more than one game and then we can reassess. Maybe he even follows your two bad start one bad start pattern one time this season, this still will do nothing to validate your faulty thought processes after such a small sample size.

 

Bro, he’s got a lifetime 4.00 ERA/FIP lol. While not bad, you can’t go apeshit if someone says he’s not an ideal #2 SP. Get over it. You can argue the Jays are a playoff team even without him, and in that case, that nice WAR based on eating innings isn’t as meaningful. I like him as I’ve said, just stop going apeshit when someone says he’s not an ideal #2. It’s not an awful opinion even if you don’t agree with it

[max silver]

Bro, he’s got a lifetime 4.00 ERA/FIP lol. While not bad, you can’t go apeshit if someone says he’s not an ideal #2 SP. Get over it. You can argue the Jays are a playoff team even without him, and in that case, that nice WAR based on eating innings isn’t as meaningful. I like him as I’ve said, just stop going apeshit when someone says he’s not an ideal #2. It’s not an awful opinion even if you don’t agree with it

 

I have no issues with people saying Berrios is a number 2 starter or even going so far as to state that he's not an ideal number 2 starter, those are perfectly reasonable baseball opinions. This isn't remotely close to what was actually said though. I took issue with the proclamation that he has a pattern of one good game and two bad games for his career, that's just ridiculous hyperbole. A guy like that would quickly find himself out of MLB and sure as hell wouldn't be signing a 7 year $100+ million deal. This is a front office doesn't throw around money without scrutinizing it in every possible way, if they feel good about committing this kind of money then so be it.

 

In case you missed it I tore a strip out of Felix or whatever the hell his name is because he has a history of making posts which seem directly designed to pour salt into the wounds when things go badly but has no interest in posting when times are good, who the f*** wants to have to deal with that kind of garbage? Remember last season when the Jays were running out of the season and he proclaimed the season to be over a week before the end date, or how about when he started ranting about how bad Robbie Ray was because he struggled in a handful of starts against the Yankees? If you want to go out of your way and encourage this kind of posting then have at it I guess, but I'm personally not a huge fan of people that want to try to kick you while your down to validate their own negativity. Misery doesn't love company, it's more like the miserable bastards of the world want to force you to accompany them in their wallowing and self pity.

[connorp]

I mean if you’re tightly wound and took the comment literally, yeah it’s stupid at the face of it. But if it’s just saying he’s inconsistent, it becomes a lot more reasonable. Anyways, as mentioned I like him and over the course of a season think he’s a solid guy to have at #2 but come playoff time he’s not someone that you’re going to overly confident he’s going to lock it down