Unvaccinated Players

[Grant77]

The fact that unvaccinated players will be unable to play in Canada this year is a fascinating story to follow, especially for Blue Jays fans.

 

I think it's worthwhile to have a thread dedicated to discussing who those players are and what the implications are for our season. Are there any on the Blue Jays right now? We would certainly have to trade them and avoid any free agents who didn't get the jab.

 

We know that at least 15% of the red sox 2021 roster was unvaccinated, most notably Chris Sale. Six other teams are in the same boat, including the Phillies, who at one time were around 50% unvaccinated.

 

Please don't make this a discussion about vaccines in general. It is what it is and we should discuss the implications from a purely baseball standpoint.

 

The list:

 

Boston

Chris Sale

Tanner Houck

Kutter Crawford

New York (A)

Andrew Benintendi

Chicago (N)

Jason Heyward

Andrelton Simmons

Philadelphia

JT Realmuto

Aaron Nola

Alec Bohm

Connor Brogdon

Bailey Falter

Kyle Gibson

Oakland

Austin Allen

Kirby Snead

AJ Puk

St. Louis

Austin Romine

Nolan Arenado

Paul Goldschmidt

Detroit

Andrew Chafin

Cincinnati

Brandon Drury

Tyler Mahle

Albert Almora

Joel Kuhnel

Seattle

Drew Steckenrider

Robbie Ray

Edited July 30, 2022 by Grant77

[connorp]

Has mlb revealed their Covid policy. Hopefully it’s more in line with what the other major leagues have done recently

[Grant77]

Has mlb revealed their Covid policy. Hopefully it’s more in line with what the other major leagues have done recently

 

I haven't seen one yet

 

As a side note, I did see in my information gathering that Kris Bryant is vaccinated. That's notable, as he is a player of interest in the coming days.

[connorp]

I haven't seen one yet

 

As a side note, I did see in my information gathering that Kris Bryant is vaccinated. That's notable, as he is a player of interest in the coming days.

 

I would really hate that signing. Wish he was unvacc

[connorp]

Maybe I’ll leak on Twitter that Bryant pulled an Antonio Brown

[Maahfaace]

Home field advantage taken up a notch!

[Stangstag]

Missing JD Martinez in your list. Also Andrelton Simmons.

 

Possibles:

Aaron Judge

Robbie Ray

Bryce Harper

[Grant77]

Missing JD Martinez in your list. Also Andrelton Simmons.

 

Possibles:

Aaron Judge

Robbie Ray

Bryce Harper

 

JD Martinez didn't confirm that from what I have read, but if you have a link to a more definitive answer then I will update the list. We will find out for sure when each team plays here.

[Stangstag]

JD Martinez didn't confirm that from what I have read, but if you have a link to a more definitive answer then I will update the list. We will find out for sure when each team plays here.

 

Refusing to answer yes or no pretty much confirms the answer as a "no", but yeah we can wait to add him to the list until we have a definitive answer.

[Dah Dugout]

I wonder how the Canadian rules affect the Jays with FA and trade partners?

[jaysblue]

Canada should scrap all these stupid rules anyways. It's ridiculous.

[Grant77]

I wonder how the Canadian rules affect the Jays with FA and trade partners?

 

Well obviously we can't sign or trade for anyone who isn't vaccinated. That's 12% of players according to Shi Davidi, so a pretty significant amount.

 

I wouldn't expect the government to drop this mandate anytime soon, given the tremendous amount of political capital they used to fight against truckers.

[jaysblue]

Well obviously we can't sign or trade for anyone who isn't vaccinated. That's 12% of players according to Shi Davidi, so a pretty significant amount.

 

I wouldn't expect the government to drop this mandate anytime soon, given the tremendous amount of political capital they used to fight against truckers.

 

Most of the provinces across the country are dropping restrictions and mandates. Unvaccinated workers and fans can be in the ballpark, though unvaccinated athletes can't play? Most countries around the world now are scrapping restrictions and mandates as well.

 

I don't expect this Federal Government to drop these stupid mandates anytime soon like you said, even when the science shows theses mandates really don't do anything to stop virus transmission.

 

If I was an American player, better off signing with a team in the States anyways. Lower taxes, better weather, cities, ballparks and easier to travel domestically instead of crossing a border ever 10-12 days.

[saskjayfan]

Canada should scrap all these stupid rules anyways. It's ridiculous.

 

We should, but from a purely baseball perspective if we have all our guys vaccinated the stupid rules give us a fairly substantial competitive advantage.

[Deadpool]

We are getting perilously close to making this thread overtly political.

 

I will leave the current "political" posts for now, but any more opinions on the validity of the mandate will be removed, and the person making the post will be deemed very naughty.

 

This is NOT a place to discuss your feelings about mandates, vaccines, or Covid.

 

Consider this a final warning.

[Dick_Pole]

Ignoring my political opinions about this, an unvaccinated person from Toronto visiting a venue in Toronto is different than an unvaccinated person from a foreign country crossing the Canadian border. It opens an entire can of worms over who gets special privileges and who does not. That's why the difference. Also, as a Jays fan, we should want as many restrictions as possible for opposing players

[InsideThePark]

What are the rules for unvaccinated Canadians returning to Canada? If we signed an unvaccinated Canadian the country has to let them back into their own country. Would they have to quarantine thus making it unfeasible?

[Boxcar]

Refusing to answer yes or no pretty much confirms the answer as a "no", but yeah we can wait to add him to the list until we have a definitive answer.

 

Maybe in most cases but some people refuse on principle.

[Grant77]

What are the rules for unvaccinated Canadians returning to Canada? If we signed an unvaccinated Canadian the country has to let them back into their own country. Would they have to quarantine thus making it unfeasible?

 

I think your last sentence answers your question. They wouldn't make it easy for an unvaccinated Canadian to play here, not that there are many or any available.

[Stangstag]

Maybe in most cases but some people refuse on principle.

 

I don’t buy it. If you were vaxxed you’d have no problem saying yes

[Boxcar]

What are the rules for unvaccinated Canadians returning to Canada? If we signed an unvaccinated Canadian the country has to let them back into their own country. Would they have to quarantine thus making it unfeasible?

 

Last time I went to the states, I had to show the border agent proof of vaccination or face quarantine when I came back. She also got very mad that I didn't download some stupid f***ing app on my phone, and said that could also lead to quarantine. I doubt there would be exceptions for athletes. On top of that, even if you have all your s*** in order, they can just "randomly" select people to sumbit a test during which time you are to isolate until receiving the results. I was one but I didn't bother doing it and nothing happened, so take that how you will. I do believe the border rules got more strict a couple days after my trip, though.

 

I don’t buy it. If you were vaxxed you’d have no problem saying yes

 

Well I am and I told my workplace it was none of their f***ing business so I have to submit tests twice a week. Doubt I'm the only one.

[Stangstag]

Well I am and I told my workplace it was none of their f***ing business so I have to submit tests twice a week. Doubt I'm the only one.

 

Lol

[jerb]

 

Boston Strong

@BostonStrong_34

 

From The Athletic; The Red Sox have multiple key players that are unvaccinated that could miss the series in Toronto and the biggest name on the list is Xander Bogaerts.

[Stangstag]

 

Boston Strong

@BostonStrong_34

 

From The Athletic; The Red Sox have multiple key players that are unvaccinated that could miss the series in Toronto and the biggest name on the list is Xander Bogaerts.

 

Oooo

[Grant77]

 

Boston Strong

@BostonStrong_34

 

From The Athletic; The Red Sox have multiple key players that are unvaccinated that could miss the series in Toronto and the biggest name on the list is Xander Bogaerts.

 

I updated the list. It certainly won't hurt to have him unavailable in Toronto.

[jerb]

 

Bryan Hoch

@BryanHoch

 

Aaron Boone said that he is concerned about Yankees players not being able to play in Canada. “We still have a few guys at least who are not vaccinated.”

 

Jon Heyman

@JonHeyman

 

Yankees would miss a chunk of the middle of their order if unvaccinated players can’t play in Toronto. Red Sox would be missing many more players.

[Jays24]

After suffering from home field disadvantage for the past 2 seasons, I'm OK from taking advantage of people who still believe in Facebook posts as concrete news.

[FantasyNewb]

Wasn't there a final warning for these kinds of posts? Or does it only work one way? Edited March 13, 2022 by Deadpool
Removed quote of deleted post

[Deadpool]

Wasn't there a final warning for these kinds of posts? Or does it only work one way?

 

You are correct, deleted a couple of posts.

[Jays24]

Wasn't there a final warning for these kinds of posts? Or does it only work one way?

 

I haven't posted all offseason so had no clue there were any restrictions on stuff like this but based on seeing the deleted posts, I guess I know now.