max silver Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 Montoyo's poison touch. He has a knack for consistently making the wrong moves.
thatoneguy Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 You know how it it, we must take out our 20 million dollar pitcher who has given up 3 hits all game just so we can use our "lockdown" bullpen. Lol a bunch of people were saying to take Ryu out. Montoyo is trash, but you can't have it both ways.
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 Two quality starts in a row gone to s***.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 15, 2021 Author Posted August 15, 2021 You know how it it, we must take out our 20 million dollar pitcher who has given up 3 hits all game just so we can use our "lockdown" bullpen. Whats sad is Jays are going to need Pearson to be stellar in the pen to have a chance. Cause even though some of our additions have done well overall...they arent top notch end of game relievers at the end of the day
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 Lol a bunch of people were saying to take Ryu out. Montoyo is trash, but you can't have it both ways. It wasn't the worst decision but those bunch of people don't realize our bullpen SUCKS. I'd rather side with my 20 million dollar pitcher who only gave up 3 f***ing hits all game.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 I understand you can’t expect your bullpen to hold it to 0 runs every game. But its like almost every f***ing time they cough up the lead unless we’re ahead by like 6 runs.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 15, 2021 Author Posted August 15, 2021 I understand you can’t expect your bullpen to hold it to 0 runs every game. But its like almost every f***ing time they cough up the lead unless we’re ahead by like 6 runs. Then it's just coughing up 5 runs
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 Whats sad is Jays are going to need Pearson to be stellar in the pen to have a chance. Cause even though some of our additions have done well overall...they arent top notch end of game relievers at the end of the day Exactly... the fact we've gotten so much out of Richards and Cimber is clearly not sustainable. They were never pegged to be high leverage guys but are being used as that because we have no other option.
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 Montoyo's baseball instincts seem to be bad. Maybe the other coaches are giving him input but the optics are not good.
InvincibleTiger Verified Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 It's so easy to bet against my team when I know how our dreadful our bullpen is Maybe this will be a wake up for Shatkins. Axe Montoyo and build a strong bullpen
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 15, 2021 Author Posted August 15, 2021 Exactly... the fact we've gotten so much out of Richards and Cimber is clearly not sustainable. They were never pegged to be high leverage guys but are being used as that because we have no other option. They are gimmick pitchers imo. Can be really good, but as you said not sustainable. Cimbers arm angle and Richards changeup..both slow throwing pitchers for the pen, when it goes bad it goes really bad
Masterbather Verified Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 West coast road trips. Can't figure out if I hate them more than visits to the Trop.
jaysfaithful8 Verified Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 Who gets called up for Springer if he lands on the IL?
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 Montoyo's baseball instincts seem to be bad. Maybe the other coaches are giving him input but the optics are not good. If Shatkins don't make a change this offseason then I wouldn't know what to say. Every metric says we're a really good f***ing team and yet our record doesn't indicate that.
InvincibleTiger Verified Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 West coast road trips. Can't figure out if I hate them more than visits to the Trop. true
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 If Shatkins don't make a change this offseason then I wouldn't know what to say. Every metric says we're a really good f***ing team and yet our record doesn't indicate that. We both know they want to keep him Yes man.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 15, 2021 Author Posted August 15, 2021 Montoyo's baseball instincts seem to be bad. Maybe the other coaches are giving him input but the optics are not good. I dont think they are
Ehjays Verified Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 who asked what else can go wrong
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 15, 2021 Author Posted August 15, 2021 Who gets called up for Springer if he lands on the IL? Probably Biggio
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 We both know they want to keep him Yes man. But that's the scary and untalked about part here. Are Shatkins aligned with the ******** Montoyo does every game? Like do they think we should use our bullpen like we're the Rays when there's a clear talent discrepancy on that front? I really wish not or I worry about our ability to take the next step as a franchise.
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 Why couldn't it have been Grichuk getting hurt? Some dreams can't happen.
Buster Verified Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 If Shatkins don't make a change this offseason then I wouldn't know what to say. Every metric says we're a really good f***ing team and yet our record doesn't indicate that. You are exactly as good as your record. This team 'looks' better than it is, for the most part.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 15, 2021 Author Posted August 15, 2021 Guess we go back to Semien, Bo, Vlad, Teoscar
travisinfla Verified Member Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 Yes we have inflated numbers, sort of like garbage time in NFL. I'd like to see our stats when it counts.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 15, 2021 Author Posted August 15, 2021 We are not hitting hangers anymore
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